What to do about Illegal Aliens ?

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

What to do about Illegal Aliens ?
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Work out a deal with Mexico. They take our rejects the teabaggers and we'll take all their poor.

It's a win win.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Brother_Karl

What I was really looking for was answers which included what type of 'tests' these people should have to take etc.

I take it from your answers that you are both 100% happy with the process that immigrants must go through to become legal?

C'mon Karl, you're a better student than to take that logical leap. There is a difference between explaining a process and endorsing it. I believe that I have posted before that more energy should be spent enforcing the laws against the employers who exploit the cheap labor - thus undermining the wage structure for other workers. Reduce the number of employers who cheat and it will decrease the incentive to sneak in.

Regards,

D-Ray

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

C'mon Karl, you're a better student than to take that logical leap. There is a difference between explaining a process and endorsing it. I believe that I have posted before that more energy should be spent enforcing the laws against the employers who exploit the cheap labor - thus undermining the wage structure for other workers. Reduce the number of employers who cheat and it will decrease the incentive to sneak in.

Regards,

D-Ray

Well good for you.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I agree Blue. I can't believe the push for bennies for illegals.

Israel has proved the fences work. At keeping people out of their own country, unfortunately.

If this admin is so good at enforcing the laws on the books, why the grandstanding over AZ laws?

Pete

They're not good at enforcing existing laws, no previous administration has been good at that since---I don't know when. A long time ago, that's for sure.

I dunno, Pete. Near as I can tell, they believe the AZ laws are more about anti-Latino sentiment (Racism, if you want to call it that.) than anything else. But, I don't know much about the AZ laws, and I don't live in AZ. I do know we have a rapidly growing Latino population here, in VA. And, the usual haters are as livid about their presence as they are about blacks and, well, anyone who isn't Caucasian. (And Southern.) They sure don't mind hiring Mexicans to do their landscaping, though.

But, is that the case in AZ? Beats me. Never been there. (Well, I drove through, once, in 1986. But I was pretty stoned.)

Dave

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

C'mon Karl, you're a better student than to take that logical leap. There is a difference between explaining a process and endorsing it. I believe that I have posted before that more energy should be spent enforcing the laws against the employers who exploit the cheap labor - thus undermining the wage structure for other workers. Reduce the number of employers who cheat and it will decrease the incentive to sneak in.

Regards,

D-Ray

I agree with you 100%.

Chas

[piece-itpete]

Blue, LOL! I understand that Obama has been pretty aggressive with illegal immigrant law enforcement.

Originally Posted by d-ray657

C'mon Karl, you're a better student than to take that logical leap. There is a difference between explaining a process and endorsing it. I believe that I have posted before that more energy should be spent enforcing the laws against the employers who exploit the cheap labor - thus undermining the wage structure for other workers. Reduce the number of employers who cheat and it will decrease the incentive to sneak in.

Regards,

D-Ray

We're in agreement counselor

Pete

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Brother_Karl

What I was really looking for was answers which included what type of 'tests' these people should have to take etc.

I take it from your answers that you are both 100% happy with the process that immigrants must go through to become legal?

You make it sound like the Spanish Inquisition. As a recent immigrant (1984) on an H1B visa I was naturalized in 1992. There was one interview earlier that got me my green card and the final one with an immigration officer, most pleasant and approximately 20 minutes in duration, at no point did I need painkillers. Legal immigration into this country is if anything far easier than it should be.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

They sure don't mind hiring Mexicans to do their landscaping, though.

People often make adjustments whenever it comes to cheap labour. They will hire Mexicans as live in domestics without even carrying out any criminal or health checks. Heck....a working class household with two, three domestics decked out in uniforms.....that was once the preserve of the previleged.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Charles

I agree with you 100%.

Chas

I imagine you have to compete with a few of the cheaters, don't you? I would also imagine that their share of a job is considerably greater than yours. From what I have read about how I run your business, which I believe, you go above and beyond what the rules require as far as taking care of your crew.

Regards,

D-Ray

[painter]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I believe that I have posted before that more energy should be spent enforcing the laws against the employers who exploit the cheap labor - thus undermining the wage structure for other workers.

D-Ray

A set of laws are only as effective as the person/people enforcing them.