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09-04-2022, 10:33 PM
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Anyone who thinks Christianity is not relevant runs the risk of sounding as ignorant as Stalin was when he quipped, regarding the Pope, "How many divisions does he have?" The ability of the far right to co-opt evangelical christianity has given them the power of countless virtual divisions in the the current cultural/political wars. I saw this mobilization in 2020 in a Cincinnati suburb, where a billboard bore the message "If your church isn't telling you how to vote, you need a new church!" Most don't realize they are fighting for the 1%, of course.
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09-05-2022, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Most don't realize they are fighting for the 1%, of course.
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That is so true. The 1% has bought both sides of the argument.
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09-05-2022, 11:17 AM
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That is so true. The 1% has bought both sides of the argument.
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Back that equivalency up. How has the 1% bought the non-evangelical liberal protestant denominations, or any other segment of the left?
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09-06-2022, 07:52 AM
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To go back to the OP:
A social / political trend such the GOP coopting so-called Christian denominations can not be described as 'sociopathic'. The term can only be applied to human individuals.
The word 'pandemic' is a closer fit, but not exact.
It is a sickness when Preachers tell their congregation to rock the vote, IMHO.
I've seen one local AOG Pastor try to get himself elected to city council by telling his 'flock' that God wanted them to vote for him. The mayor sort of despised the churches for influencing electoral processes.
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09-06-2022, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Anyone who thinks Christianity is not relevant runs the risk of sounding as ignorant as Stalin was when he quipped, regarding the Pope, "How many divisions does he have?" The ability of the far right to co-opt evangelical christianity has given them the power of countless virtual divisions in the the current cultural/political wars. I saw this mobilization in 2020 in a Cincinnati suburb, where a billboard bore the message "If your church isn't telling you how to vote, you need a new church!" Most don't realize they are fighting for the 1%, of course.
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When US forces invaded Panama, the primary target was Emmanuel Noriega himself.
They didn't killed 800 people just to peacefully arrest the guy, either, (according to one source whom I consider reliable).
The power of the Pope save his life. That's power ! Facing down a seriously armed contingent of troops with nothing more than TV cameras.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just marveling at the power.
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09-06-2022, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Back that equivalency up. How has the 1% bought the non-evangelical liberal protestant denominations, or any other segment of the left?
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The left or segments: no potent action on basic critical issues which confront the American people.
Such as housing, food and energy.
Any rally, street demonstration against corporations buying up large chunks of single family housing?
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09-06-2022, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
When US forces invaded Panama, the primary target was Emmanuel Noriega himself.
They didn't killed 800 people just to peacefully arrest the guy, either, (according to one source whom I consider reliable).
The power of the Pope save his life. That's power ! Facing down a seriously armed contingent of troops with nothing more than TV cameras.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just marveling at the power.
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In the time of Stalin that power would be zero.
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09-06-2022, 05:02 PM
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Whenever the considerations of a religious takeover of the government.
The religious right has been doing the preliminary ground work for years. Grooming of, educating funding placement in key areas. Taking the long view, one of generational to have control. We are now seeing the fruits ripen of their efforts.
Afraid we have not seen anything yet....
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09-06-2022, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
In the time of Stalin that power would be zero.
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That's more a matter of geography. The Catholic church had a lot of power during that era, but not in the Soviet Russia.
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09-06-2022, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
Whenever the considerations of a religious takeover of the government.
The religious right has been doing the preliminary ground work for years. Grooming of, educating funding placement in key areas. Taking the long view, one of generational to have control. We are now seeing the fruits ripen of their efforts.
Afraid we have not seen anything yet....
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I don't actually see it, other than Mike Pence trying to woo the main stream churches, and I'm sure the churches donate a lot of money.
But I don't see any Christians ruling the country. Y'all will have to convince of the Nat C take over.
I think the worst of it was Billy Graham's love for Lyndon Johnson, trying to convince everyone that Jesus thought Napalm was good stuff (my spin). We haven't seen anything like that since.
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