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Old 07-23-2015, 11:31 AM
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I still can't grasp Lee as "a man of honor" going with a defense of slavery vs preserving the union.

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My take on it is that Lee, personally, did indeed have conflicting loyalties but I don't think that slavery per se entered into it. What I believe is that Lee considered himself first and foremost a Virginian. When his state seceded, he felt that it was his duty, as a Virginian, to pledge himself to their cause.

So, he was, by his own lights, a "man of honor" but his loyalty was seriously misplaced.

In other words, he was a traitor and should have been hanged.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:07 PM
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My take on it is that Lee ... he was a traitor and should have been hanged.
I see you're still channeling the Lost Cause abolitionist.
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Old 07-23-2015, 01:08 PM
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I see you're still channeling the Lost Cause abolitionist.
Would you care to explain? (Are you even capable of explaining?)
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Old 07-25-2015, 07:39 PM
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Would you care to explain? (Are you even capable of explaining?)
I would if not for your parenthetical question.
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Old 07-25-2015, 09:02 PM
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Yep. The portrayal of the Confederacy, it's leaders and what they did as something "honorable" has always been a damned lie, meant to help Southern whites feel good about their past. Appease them to avoid upsetting them.

I think General Sherman had the right idea.
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Old 07-25-2015, 09:04 PM
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My take on it is that Lee, personally, did indeed have conflicting loyalties but I don't think that slavery per se entered into it. What I believe is that Lee considered himself first and foremost a Virginian. When his state seceded, he felt that it was his duty, as a Virginian, to pledge himself to their cause.

So, he was, by his own lights, a "man of honor" but his loyalty was seriously misplaced.

In other words, he was a traitor and should have been hanged.
Pissed on, then hanged. And, I'm trying to be nice.
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