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Old 08-03-2022, 09:21 AM
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Meanwhile, if you're an honest Repube, who tells the truth about the Crime Boss and his corruption, you're out on your ass. MAGAMorons are obviously incredibly stupid, Whell, but incredibly loyal to their Dear Leader.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...zona-rcna40647
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Old 08-03-2022, 09:23 AM
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Meanwhile, if you're an honest Repube, who tells the truth about the Crime Boss and his corruption, you're out on your ass. MAGAMorons are obviously incredibly stupid, Whell, but incredibly loyal to their Dear Leader.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...zona-rcna40647
Yes, I know the mainstream media wants to spin this as Trump's retribution. The thing is, Bowers was never a leading candidate among likely Republican voters in Arizona, who tend to be more conservative.

“Bowers is the ultimate insider’s insider,” said one prominent lobbyist, who added that “Bowers will have more money than God for his race, which he may need because his voting record is actually pretty terrible if you’re in a conservative Republican primary.”

While Bowers is popular among “establishment” Republicans and the Chambers of Commerce, Farnsworth remains very popular with the grassroots of the Party. Farnsworth recently served as the District Chairman for the district, and during his time in the State Senate, he had one of the most reliably conservative voting records of any Republican.


Again, Chicks, facts over spin will help you every time.
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Old 08-03-2022, 09:29 AM
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Yes, I know the mainstream media wants to spin this as Trump's retribution. The thing is, Bowers was never a leading candidate among likely Republican voters in Arizona, who tend to be more conservative.

“Bowers is the ultimate insider’s insider,” said one prominent lobbyist, who added that “Bowers will have more money than God for his race, which he may need because his voting record is actually pretty terrible if you’re in a conservative Republican primary.”

While Bowers is popular among “establishment” Republicans and the Chambers of Commerce, Farnsworth remains very popular with the grassroots of the Party. Farnsworth recently served as the District Chairman for the district, and during his time in the State Senate, he had one of the most reliably conservative voting records of any Republican.


Again, Chicks, facts over spin will help you every time.
Liz Cheney told the truth about tRumpolini and look what happened to her. She was a darling of the GOP until she "crossed" tRump.
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Old 08-03-2022, 09:32 AM
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I'll spell it out for you whell. R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N-S The Democratic voters are in the majority so that makes Republican voters the minority. Much to the chagrin of the GOP we are still a country of majority rule. Although they are doing their best to change this.
Sorry, but "no" to that one too. You can't make that categorical statement because the political winds shift over time. Most recently, the majority of folks report themselves as "R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N-S". To be fair, more folks report themselves as "Independent" than either Repub or Dem.

The broader trend toward an increasing share of political independents has been clear over the past decade, with more Americans viewing themselves as independents than did so in the late 1980s through 2000s. At least four in 10 Americans have considered themselves independents in all years since 2011, except for the 2016 and 2020 presidential election years. Before 2011, independent identification had never reached 40%.
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Old 08-03-2022, 09:34 AM
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Liz Cheney told the truth about tRumpolini and look what happened to her. She was a darling of the GOP until she "crossed" tRump.
Uh, no. The Cheney family has long-standing bad blood with Trump. This is personal for Cheney. If she gets "primaried", it will be because the folks in her home state have lost confidence in where her priorities are.
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Old 08-03-2022, 09:40 AM
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Uh, no. The Cheney family has long-standing bad blood with Trump. This is personal for Cheney. If she gets "primaried", it will be because the folks in her home state have lost confidence in where her priorities are.
“Her priorities”. Little inconsequential things like facts, truth, the constitution….
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:31 AM
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Sorry, but "no" to that one too. You can't make that categorical statement because the political winds shift over time. Most recently, the majority of folks report themselves as "R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N-S". To be fair, more folks report themselves as "Independent" than either Repub or Dem.

The broader trend toward an increasing share of political independents has been clear over the past decade, with more Americans viewing themselves as independents than did so in the late 1980s through 2000s. At least four in 10 Americans have considered themselves independents in all years since 2011, except for the 2016 and 2020 presidential election years. Before 2011, independent identification had never reached 40%.
Wrong again ol' buddy. The registered voters that are Dems still outnumber the registered Republicans. You bucking for a seat on the Supreme Court? You seem to go to a SC Justice Samuel Alito level of effort to find things to justify your views that you call facts. Don't worry about that "qualifications" thing. To the GOP that doesn't matter anymore. Sorry about that majority rule thing. For the time being that's how it works.

EDIT: It almost worked. You almost got me to let you define my statement. Subtly shading it to something you can defend. Clever fella. The "those even slightly to the left of the conservative Reich-Wing" is referring to those that aren't the ultra right wing extremists of the party. Said extremists while seeming to over populate Congress still don't comprise the majority of the party. The wingnuts are just the ones that make the most noise.
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:33 AM
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“Her priorities”. Little inconsequential things like facts, truth, the constitution….
It's amazing how the Reich-Wing talking points bubble up in his post replies. It's like this is his post (he originated) so he has to defend it to the death, facts be damned.
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:40 AM
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You're arguing points that I'm not making. For example:

Do you deny that the initial reporting on Sandmann painted him as the instigator in the confrontation with the native American? It was absolutely reported that way.

You posted a link to an article where you state Trump's DOJ curtailed the Kavanaugh investigation. However, the article you linked to makes no such statement.

Apparently in your world, protests that result in dozens killed or injured and billions of dollars in property damage are "mostly peaceful". Sorry, not buying the spin.

Yes, the FBI found 50 useful idiots to sign on to a statement that says stories about Hunter B's laptop look like Russian disinformation....before the 2020 election. That statement has since been discredited. The Feds are now reportedly close to making a decision about bringing charges against Hunter B.

I could go on, but it gets tiresome helping you keep your facts straight.
To the extent that the MSM got any of these stories wrong (they mostly didn't), they come clean and retract or correct the record and even write exposes about how they fucked up (IOW, they actually want to get things right). Wingnut News, however, has no intent/interest in getting things right (as opposed to being simply a propaganda outlet for the Right) and doubles down when caught making up fictitious stories and then conjures up more lies and/or changes the subject in a CYA attempt.

Consider for a moment that the #1 show on Fox News, the primary news source for conservatives, admits in open court that Tucker Carlson is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' Then in a deposition Sidney Powell, a frequent Fox News guest invited on the network to spew her lies about the 2020 election, stated "no reasonable person would conclude that my statements were truly statements of fact." Conversely, Fox News fired its political editor, Chris Stirewalt, for having the nerve to tell the truth about Arizona election results instead of maintaining the fiction that its viewers wanted to hear (that Trump won).
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Old 08-03-2022, 01:21 PM
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Speaking of FAUX LIES, er, FAUX "NEWS" this time Joe Manchin wasn't having it. Any of it and that seemed to genuinely perplex the host.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...2b0a915847310b

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