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09-16-2014, 09:14 PM
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Datsun rolling out the 240Z caught the US mfgrs flat - footed.
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09-16-2014, 09:29 PM
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Their feet were bolted down. They stayed flat-footed for 15-20 years there.
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09-17-2014, 12:23 AM
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Their feet were bolted down. They stayed flat-footed for 15-20 years there.
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I remember hearing, "We got nothin' to worry about, we make the best damn cars in the world." Long after everyone outside the GM bubble knew better.
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09-17-2014, 01:03 AM
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Their feet were bolted down. They stayed flat-footed for 15-20 years there.
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Ford Pinto, Chevy Vega and Chrysler Omni/Horizon.
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09-17-2014, 05:58 AM
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The thing is the Japanese government helped the likes of Toyota Nissan (Datsun) etc and slapped a big fat tarriff on any cars entering Japan while theirs came in here damn near free.
Sure the big three did put out some lousy cars but the playing field was anything but level.
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09-17-2014, 08:10 AM
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If you knew the amount of claims trading going on with the Detroit Chapter 9 bankruptcy case, you'd be more sanguine about the future of the city.
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09-17-2014, 09:11 AM
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Okay. Everyone is to blame but management. They are always the hapless victim of fate. Got it.
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No kidding. Their arrogance was breathtaking.
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09-17-2014, 01:49 PM
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If you knew the amount of claims trading going on with the Detroit Chapter 9 bankruptcy case, you'd be more sanguine about the future of the city.
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I'm sanguine about it despite my ignorance of the details and specifics. I'm sanguine because it's a case where the assumption of failure has become self perpetuating. Very few businesses will even consider Detroit and people will only move TO Detroit if they absolutely HAVE to, based on negative reputation alone.
That sort of thing is extremely difficult to overcome.
Dave
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12-29-2014, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
"Scorched Earth";
Whatever a tyrant can't control, he destroys.
Not just Flint, but Detroit and the rest of the Rust Belt was deliberately abandoned to show the American people who's boss and that the bosses HATE Democracy. Democracy, to my mind, is the very heart of freedom itself. Just as some may argue that the unions went too far, I would argue that those who dogmatically oppose them can also go too far. And, in fact history proves that they have and most likely will again. The long view presents a much different picture than the short-sighted one painted by those who oppose empowered labor, my friend.............
In advance to some of you who will hate the point of this thread;
Up Yours......
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If Detroit was a white neighborhood, they would have been bailed out along with the banks.
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03-07-2015, 07:47 AM
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Who's been running the D. I've been saying for years "Why do they keep voting those fucking dems in"? Of course we know that's because they are all goose stepping union jack offs. I'm union, will retire in one year two months, and have never voted dem. Not that I would
n't have if they had ran a candidate I trusted and agreed with. My lawn, 2 acres across from the golf course, is lined with Republican signs. That after many threats from the union. Do you know we still have a goon squad. Maybe it's my policy of a loaded high caliber in every room of the house, or the 3 my wife packs everyday, but I think because of my "guns" and shoot first rep., nobody fucks with my signs. Run Ben Run!
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
"Scorched Earth";
Whatever a tyrant can't control, he destroys.
Not just Flint, but Detroit and the rest of the Rust Belt was deliberately abandoned to show the American people who's boss and that the bosses HATE Democracy. Democracy, to my mind, is the very heart of freedom itself. Just as some may argue that the unions went too far, I would argue that those who dogmatically oppose them can also go too far. And, in fact history proves that they have and most likely will again. The long view presents a much different picture than the short-sighted one painted by those who oppose empowered labor, my friend.............
In advance to some of you who will hate the point of this thread;
Up Yours......
Dave
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