Roger Stone: Seven to Nine?

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Originally Posted by donquixote99

The discourse here is disappointing, as the subject is important. NEVER BEFORE has there been such political interference with the prosecution team responsible for a case at trial. The pardon power is completely different and should be exercised as such if it is going to apply. You can call this 'legal' only by ignoring that strong norms are being violated, norms that fill a constitutional deficiency that otherwise allows the President to do violence to the rule of law.

Yes, this is yet another serious constitutional crisis. Some here are simply too dense to understand that, sadly.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The discourse here is disappointing, as the subject is important. NEVER BEFORE has there been such political interference with the prosecution team responsible for a case at trial. The pardon power is completely different and should be exercised as such if it is going to apply. You can call this 'legal' only by ignoring that strong norms are being violated, norms that fill a constitutional deficiency that otherwise allows the President to do violence to the rule of law.

The president is saying that several prominent persons within the system abused it and used it politically against him and fellow travelers. He is now resorting to the powers which the constitution bestows on him to offer some correction.

Luckily for him this time he has the right person in place...Barr.

(The people he employed have been for the most part disastrous. John Bolton!!! WTF)

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The president is saying that several prominent persons within the system abused it and used it politically against him and fellow travelers. He is now resorting to the powers which the constitution bestow on him to offer some correction.

Luckily for him this time he has the right person in place...Barr.

(The people he employed have been for the most part disastrous. John Bolton!!! WTF)

What the President says is just words. You can believe his excuses or not, but the fact remains that what the president has DONE is exercise a constitutional nuclear option that constitutes a huge step toward authoritarian rule. The now-shattered norms against this had evolved because generations of leaders of all stripes feared a president with direct control of the federal prosecutorial power.

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Originally Posted by Dondilion

The president is saying that several prominent persons within the system abused it and used it politically against him and fellow travelers. He is now resorting to the powers which the constitution bestows on him to offer some correction.

Luckily for him this time he has the right person in place...Barr.

Once again, you prove your incredible ignorance. Fucker Carlson has you completely programmed. Such a fool.

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After Stone Case, Prosecutors Say They Fear Pressure From Trump
The episode also brought to a head tensions in the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/12/u...entencing.html

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Barr blasts Trump's tweets on Stone case: 'Impossible for me to do my job'

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/barr...ry?id=68963276

Sorry, Billy. You haven’t a shred of credibility left. Time to resign.

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Former Justice Dept. Lawyers Press for Barr to Step Down
More than 1,100 former prosecutors and officials who served in Republican and Democratic administrations signed an open letter condemning the president and the attorney general over the Stone case.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/16/u...epartment.html

WASHINGTON — More than 1,100 former federal prosecutors and Justice Department officials called on Attorney General William P. Barr on Sunday to step down after he intervened last week to lower the Justice Department’s sentencing recommendation for President Trump’s longtime friend Roger J. Stone Jr.

They also urged current government employees to report any signs of unethical behavior at the Justice Department to the agency’s inspector general and to Congress.

“Each of us strongly condemns President Trump’s and Attorney General Barr’s interference in the fair administration of justice,” the former Justice Department lawyers, who came from across the political spectrum, wrote in an open letter on Sunday. Those actions, they said, “require Mr. Barr to resign.”

The sharp denunciation of Mr. Barr underlined the extent of the fallout over the case of Mr. Stone, capping a week that strained the attorney general’s relationship with his rank and file, and with the president himself.

No question he should resign. Problem is, Donny won't replace him, so that he can bully the DOJ into submission.

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Laurence Tribe @tribelaw

This is rolling thunder. One stuffed goose named Barr is cooked. 2000 DOJ alumni he can ignore. 1000 federal judges? That’s an altogether different kettle of fish.

Federal judges' association calls emergency meeting after DOJ intervenes in case of Trump ally...
usatoday.com
3:52 PM · Feb 17, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

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Roger Stone sentenced to 40 months (3.3 years) less than half of the lower recommendation of 7 years. I'd post up a poll predicting how soon the angry Orange boil on America's ass will pardon Stone but what would be the use?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...faa_story.html

[Ike Bana]

As far as I know, the DOJ or prosecutors therein, including the AG can make sentencing requests and recommendations. But the actual sentencing is determined and delivered by the presiding judge. In this case, Amy Berman Jackson. Who, as far as I've been able to determine, is not a Trump or GOP stooge.