How will Dubya be viewed by future historians? - Page 2

Bigerik · #1 03-12-2012, 05:08 PM

Bottom quarter. One of the worst presidents the US has seen. Took the US in his presidency from world financial and military leader, to financial basket case, and a spent military power. Launched massive wars, none of which were successful. Sent the full force of the US government to catch one man and failed at it. Internationally, made the trust level of the US likely the lowest ever. Personally, he is going to go down as a laughing stock. Has there ever been a President with lesser oratorial skills?

His ties to the Saudis will be called into question.

Finally, I think his personal bravery will be called into question. At a time when the US people needed him, when the country was under attack, he sat and waited with a bunch of kindergarten kids.

68custom · #2 03-12-2012, 05:25 PM

bottom quarter for sure, misson accomplished was a joke! don't forget he was the decider! and what about that debacle when he was originally up for election when Jeb and that witch Katherine Harris handed him the presidency.

whell · #3 03-12-2012, 05:37 PM

Middle of the pack. He was a pretty good political tactician, better than his opponents gave him credit for, as he routinely snookered them. He was to far to the left for my tastes with his domestic agenda, however.

Regarding the war - history will forget that Bush acted on the intelligence assessments that most of this contemporaries and predecessors knew to be "true", at least based on the intelligence he had. Maybe Saddam snookered him, maybe Saddam got the remains for his program out of the country before the invasion, maybe the program never existed. I suspect the truth is somewhere in between, but we may never find out what the truth really is on this one. The grand-standing on the carrier deck doesn't help the historical portrait, either.

finnbow · #4 03-12-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

Regarding the war - history will forget that Bush acted on the intelligence assessments that most of this contemporaries and predecessors knew to be "true"....

Howzabout "believed to be true?" Even that may be a stretch (e.g., Downing St. memos).

noonereal · #5 03-13-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by whell

Regarding the war - history will forget that Bush acted on the intelligence assessments that most of this contemporaries and predecessors knew to be "true", at least based on the intelligence he had. Maybe Saddam snookered him, maybe Saddam got the remains for his program out of the country before the invasion, maybe the program never existed. I suspect the truth is somewhere in between, but we may never find out what the truth really is on this one. The grand-standing on the carrier deck doesn't help the historical portrait, either.

Iraq was contained regardless of any capabilities he did or did not have. Going to war was insane and only accomplished by lies. Ask sister Sarah, here is a women who ran for the vice presidency of out counry and she though Iraq attacked us on 911.

She thought that because George had tricked her and millions of Americans into believeing it.

This is serious stuff and the guy should be considered the worst president ever and be jailed.

Oerets · #6 03-13-2012, 08:13 AM

This all depends on who writes history now does it not? Look at how Reagan is viewed by many now just to see my point.

Barney

piece-itpete · #7 03-13-2012, 09:07 AM

Hopefully a serious Historian will be heard in years to come and not a bunch of whining partisan hacks (myself included)

Pete

noonereal · #8 03-13-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Hopefully a serious Historian will be heard in years to come and not a bunch of whining partisan hacks (myself included)

Pete

As long as history shows the facts I agree. The facts are that Bush mislead his country so completely that even government officials did not know that Iraq had nothing to do with 911.

piece-itpete · #9 03-13-2012, 11:10 AM

As long as history shows that Bush was a lying idiot?

Pete

bobabode · #10 03-13-2012, 04:36 PM

As a patsy, a war criminal, a liar, a straw man,a drunkard. Blah, blah, blah.

As a cheerleader who forgot to put on underwear before doing they're routine is my opinion. Look to the House and Senate for the culpable if that's what you're looking for. Afterthought, include SCOTUS in the culpable.