‘Draft Bernie For A People’s Party’

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Could be that the common man could consider his health his on responsibility rather than the government as well.

I'm sure most men feel that way. But few men, perhaps 1% of the population actually makes enough to pay for his own healthcare.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by MrPots

I'm sure most men feel that way. But few men, perhaps 1% of the population actually makes enough to pay for his own healthcare.

Actually, they might, if they paid into a fund for it starting at age 18. Of course, some would get into an expensive bout of cancer and run the fund dry late in life, and some would get into a bad car wreck at age 22 and be fucked, cost-wise as well as having a busted body.

Insurance, done right, has some advantages.

[Pio1980]

Freedom is the right to work your ass off and die penniless in the gutter of preventable/ curable disease or injury.
Is this a great country, or what?

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by MrPots

I'm sure most men feel that way. But few men, perhaps 1% of the population actually makes enough to pay for his own healthcare.

Tell me about it. Cost me $23,000 last year. And, that was with insurance.

I was on Obamacare, but my wife got a job in the early summer and busted us out of the subsidy. So, I have to pay them $11,000 back because she made $20,000. Add, that to the $4851 that I paid for the Obamacre premium for 11 months. Then a supposedly routine colonoscopy except I lost 4 units of blood and it cost $35,000 to fix it. Of course, the doctor takes no responsibility for botching that. So, add another $6700 max out of pocket.

No, I have no problem with one payer, Medicare for everybody or whatever.

The way it is set up right now there is a disincentive to work unless you have employee insurance.

We do now with my wife's job which costs about $400 a month. But, we got clobbered last year.

Next year I will be on Medicare. Hate to wish my life a way, but I can't wait.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Tell me about it. Cost me $23,000 last year. And, that was with insurance.

I was on Obamacare, but my wife got a job in the early summer and busted us out of the subsidy. So, I have to pay them $11,000 back because she made $20,000. Add, that to the $4851 that I paid for the Obamacre premium for 11 months. Then a supposedly routine colonoscopy except I lost 4 units of blood and it cost $35,000 to fix it. Of course, the doctor takes no responsibility for botching that. So, add another $6700 max out of pocket.

No, I have no problem with one payer, Medicare for everybody or whatever.

The way it is set up right now there is a disincentive to work unless you have employee insurance.

We do now with my wife's job which costs about $400 a month. But, we got clobbered last year.

Next year I will be on Medicare. Hate to wish my life a way, but I can't wait.

Of course not. You'll sign up as soon as you are eligible, like 99% of everyone does because it's awesome. No need for a mandate like that piece of shit Obummercare.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Tell me about it. Cost me $23,000 last year. And, that was with insurance.

I was on Obamacare, but my wife got a job in the early summer and busted us out of the subsidy. So, I have to pay them $11,000 back because she made $20,000. Add, that to the $4851 that I paid for the Obamacre premium for 11 months. Then a supposedly routine colonoscopy except I lost 4 units of blood and it cost $35,000 to fix it. Of course, the doctor takes no responsibility for botching that. So, add another $6700 max out of pocket.

Obummercare is a piece of shit. I can't say that often enough.

http://progressivearmy.com/2017/02/1...ated-the-left/

Programs like the Affordable Care Act live and die on manipulated numbers. They want me to celebrate that 90% of Americans have health insurance thanks to the ACA. But they also want me to ignore that around 40% of those people do not actually get the care they need because their premiums, deductibles, and copays are too high.