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06-17-2015, 12:23 AM
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Wonderful.
Anything that forces wages down is a great thing for the American people!
How about abolishing direct hiring and go to a temp agency based economy? See, that way we can create another layer of do-nothing prick middlemen who collect half of what Uncle Sam lets you keep for the privilege of having had to go through them to get a lousy, low wage, no benefit job!
Man, Oh MAN, this New America is gonna be GREAT!
Actually.......If it comes down to this sort of thing.......Fuck this place. I hope it goes down the toilet and good riddance to it. I am rapidly losing sight of why anyone in their right mind would risk life and limb for a country that has this attitude towards its workers.
Seriously.
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06-17-2015, 06:47 AM
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Wonderful.
Anything that forces wages down is a great thing for the American people!
How about abolishing direct hiring and go to a temp agency based economy?
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The Davis-Bacon Act only applies to Federally-funded construction contracts, not to other Federal contracts, nor to construction projects in the private sector. All it does is increase the price of Federally-funded construction while confusing prospective bidders outside of the area in which the prevailing wage rate is determined.
A little research on the Davis-Bacon Act (or better yet, experience managing projects subject to it) is in order before one rails on about its wonderfulness. If a union work force in the construction industry resulted in increased productivity or quality commensurate with union wages, such laws would have no effect. However, with their ridiculous work rules, this ain't remotely true (and accounts, in part, for why the construction industry is 13% organized).
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06-17-2015, 09:06 AM
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The Davis-Bacon Act only applies to Federally-funded construction contracts, not to other Federal contracts, nor to construction projects in the private sector. All it does is increase the price of Federally-funded construction while confusing prospective bidders outside of the area in which the prevailing wage rate is determined.
A little research on the Davis-Bacon Act (or better yet, experience managing projects subject to it) is in order before one rails on about its wonderfulness. If a union work force in the construction industry resulted in increased productivity or quality commensurate with union wages, such laws would have no effect. However, with their ridiculous work rules, this ain't remotely true (and accounts, in part, for why the construction industry is 13% organized).
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Except it doesn't stop there. It's just another pixel in the bigger picture.
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06-17-2015, 12:09 PM
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Except it doesn't stop there. It's just another pixel in the bigger picture.
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I don't buy into "camel's nose under the tent" arguments to defeat measures that should stand or fall on their own merits.
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06-17-2015, 02:28 PM
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I don't buy into "camel's nose under the tent" arguments to defeat measures that should stand or fall on their own merits.
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I'd say it's much more than just a nose, Finn.
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06-28-2015, 11:28 AM
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I'd say it's much more than just a nose, Finn.
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It's the entire Camel and he's spitting, shitting and trampling everywhere. The same people are pushing for "Right to be Exploited" laws, just voted for the TTP and everything it carries with it.
It's not just the nose when the Camels core ideology is loaded with buggery for the working class and he makes no bones about spouting his bile.
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