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05-26-2018, 10:28 AM
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You can choose to believe a Democrat fund-raiser who made herself a political martyr all you want, but us "unsophisticated rubes" and "HR flunkies" generally know BS when we see it.
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Not when the BS is of your own making. When one makes up facts, everything is a lie.
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05-26-2018, 11:48 AM
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From the OP title: "So now we know the Justice Dept/FBI Set Up Papadopoulos....",
has been totally debunked, just like how the Steele dossier (partially funded by HRC campaign) had launched the investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 elections.
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Stefan Halper is an interesting man, someone who has long had one foot in Republican politics and the other in the intelligence community. He worked for Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford on domestic policy, and then served as a deputy assistant secretary of state in the Reagan administration, focusing on the intersection of military affairs and politics.
He also worked on presidential campaigns for Reagan and George H.W. Bush, work that got him in hot water for, interestingly, allegedly spying on President Jimmy Carter’s campaign.
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So to begin with, Stefan Halper is an established Republican operative, not an FBI plant.
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After his career in American politics ended, Halper remade himself as an academic, teaching and writing about foreign affairs from his perch at Cambridge. There, he led something called the Cambridge Intelligence Seminar, an annual forum in which intelligence professionals from across the Western Hemisphere, both current and retired, meet to discuss the ins and outs of spying. Interestingly, Halper stepped down from his role in the seminar in 2016, telling the Financial Times that there was “unacceptable Russian influence on the group.”
This deep familiarity with both Republican politics and the world of international spycraft may have been what made Halper an ideal informant for the FBI during the 2016 campaign.
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Please read if you can spare the time. Case closed and an FU to the Dotard and his band of crooks and liars.
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/25/173802...-fbi-explained
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05-26-2018, 12:21 PM
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Whell isn't interested in the truth. Only in advancing his twisted agenda. Facts be damned.
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05-26-2018, 05:43 PM
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You may have noticed that today’s news is not dominated by the blockbuster revelations of what members of Congress learned yesterday when they met with Justice Department officials to review information about the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, specifically the bureau’s use of a confidential informant who contacted Trump campaign officials after learning of suspicious links involving Russia.
Why is it that the results of that highly unusual meeting (two meetings, actually) are not splashed across every front page and dominating every minute of cable news today? Because the whole thing was a farce, and it didn’t give Republicans what they were hoping for.
This reveals the absurd pattern we’ve fallen into. It goes like this: President Trump makes a ridiculous accusation that almost everyone immediately understands to be false. Then we in the media, because it’s the president, treat that accusation as though it’s something that has to be taken seriously. Then governmental resources are mustered to deal with the accusation. Then Republicans try to twist the mobilization of those resources to give them the answer they’re seeking. But because it’s all based on a lie, they fail once Democrats force some measure of truth to be revealed...
Barack Obama tapped my phones! The Obama administration illegally “unmasked” Americans caught up in surveillance of Russian targets! The Democrats colluded with Russia! The whole Russia investigation happened because of the Steele dossier!...
So that’s where we are: President Trump made an obviously false charge, everyone acted as though it might be true, and we went through all this rigamarole only to find out that, yes, it was obviously false.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-rabbit-hole/
And Whell believes every word of all of these ridiculous lies.
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05-26-2018, 05:58 PM
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And Whell believes every word of all of these ridiculous lies.
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Actually, he probably doesn't, he just acts like he does, because his great goal in life is to get up our nose.
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05-27-2018, 09:06 AM
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Goal achieved!
Must be frustrating picking at an irritating booger that can't be reached.
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Last edited by nailer; 05-27-2018 at 10:23 AM.
Reason: can't pick a bugger :^)
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05-27-2018, 09:12 AM
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Goal achieved!
Must be frustrating picking at an irritating bugger that can't be reached.
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Like Limblow, he provides great hilarity, unintentionally. Both are clowns.
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05-27-2018, 09:24 AM
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Rush is boring.
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05-27-2018, 10:20 AM
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I agree, but that hardly makes the comparison any less apt. Rush will say anything, no matter how patently absurd, to continue reaping millions from his audience-gathering ability. Whell will do likewise to get whatever payoff he gets.
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05-27-2018, 11:13 AM
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Five times an incendiary pro-Trump claim on Russia fell flat
All lies, but Trumpie morons fall for it every time, and start idiot threads like this one.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/19/polit...ies/index.html
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