Hate can bite you back

[merrylander]

While everyone is busy apportioning blame - and there is more than enough to go around - you are missing the point. TD would like us to believe that Obama, Pelosi and Ried are out to destroy the country when the real culprits are Jim Demented, Mitch McConnell and John Bonehead. Racism is alive and well in SC, the only saving grace that state has is Senator Lindsay Graham.

Dr. No and his cohorts have concluded that the way back to power is to shut down the country, remember Newt Gingrich and the budget?

They keep trotting out this socialism bullshit knowing damn well that we are so far to the right in this country that a socialist would starve.

As far as Afghanistan goes that was a royal screwup from the gitgo, what with General Franks running the show from Florida (Yeah get every one else's boots on the ground but don't dirty your own) to trusting that thief Chalabi, not that Karzai is any prize. Half a dozen B-52s with bunker busters and bin Laden would be buried at Tora Bora. Still lots of caves on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border that they are likely hiding in - flatten them. General Omar Bradley we wish you were still alive.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Charles

I'll let you all in on a little secret...it was about me!!!!

Chas

I'll bet you think that.

Regards

D-Ray

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Charles

And a certain argument can be made that the "Sub Prime Crisis" was due to the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act during the Clinton Administration,

I didn't know about any of this when it happened, but having heard a few things recently, I am a believer.

Originally Posted by Charles

The best I remember, the Clinton Administration did a lot of saber rattling, talking about how something was going to have to be done with Saddam.

Then Bush went and did it, and he's been a no account SOB in the eyes of the left every since. Or course, he already WAS a no account SOB in their eyes to start with, even before he stole the election.

But the Republican's are the party of hate.

There's a difference, I believe, between saber rattling and invasion. I think you have to pose a credible threat that you'll come in with the bombs if you're playing the game Clinton was playing. Clinton knew what was going on and in my opinion played the cards pretty well. What they found, or didn't find, when they got there is evidence of that.

Bush wasn't savvy enough to play that game and called Sadams bluff. Probably still doesn't realize that he played the hand so poorly. A lot of "we sure showed him!" going on there in my opinion. In the mean time, we're still burning money in that pit.

As for the left thinking Bush was a no account SOB, yeah, guess so. But you don't have to leave this tread to see the same from the right.

[Twodogs]

Anyone here ever "study" human emotions? They are very good things, and even help us to survive. Hate is the tricky one, but it is almost always a manifestation of another emotion.....Fear. Yes, emotions are good things, but they can "run amok", which is almost always a bad thing.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Charles

And a certain argument can be made that the "Sub Prime Crisis" was due to the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act during the Clinton Administration,

I should add to my comments above that you're at least to some degree mischaracterizing the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. Sure, it was enacted while Clinton was in office, but to paint it as a Clinton administration initiative is wrong. Maybe he should have vetoed it, but how much hell would he have gotten from the right if he had vetoed everything Congress tried to do? On second thought, watching the party of "no" right now, maybe that would have been a good strategy.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Twodogs

Anyone here ever "study" human emotions? They are very good things, and even help us to survive. Hate is the tricky one, but it is almost always a manifestation of another emotion.....Fear. Yes, emotions are good things, but they can "run amok", which is almost always a bad thing.

I think we agree on this one, my friend. I don't think the folks on here have any hatin' going on towards each other. To the extent that there is hatred going on in Washington, It results in all sides not being able to hear what the others are saying. It is possible to have serious policy differences and still be Americans, but you don't find a whole lot of people saying that.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

I should add to my comments above that you're at least to some degree mischaracterizing the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. Sure, it was enacted while Clinton was in office, but to paint it as a Clinton administration initiative is wrong. Maybe he should have vetoed it, but how much hell would he have gotten from the right if he had vetoed everything Congress tried to do? On second thought, watching the party of "no" right now, maybe that would have been a good strategy.

He signed it because Robert Rubin told him it was a good thing.