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09-08-2010, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
Because some business activity is good for the overall community, and will create jobs for which there will be a demand in the future. It creates an incentive to venture into underdeveloped technologies. The targeted tax breaks are supporting the kind of socially responsible activity that simply putting more money into the hands of the propertied class does not.
It's comical to suggest that a level playing field exists out there anyway. With disregard for the competitive impact of merger after merger in the corporate world, too many business are able to wield monopoly power.
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Great. Than use available laws as tools to make cases against those monopolies, like the government did so successfully with Microsoft. I'd also suggest that the concept of monopolies are an anachronism in an age of economic globalism and high technology where a service or a concept, rather than a physical product, can hold the most currency.
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09-08-2010, 10:09 AM
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How about picking them on basis of favors owed?
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Now that's America!
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09-08-2010, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
How about picking them on basis of favors owed?
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Yeah, that's the standard we should all use.
Just like yer pal Agent Orange. And then there's his DC landlord.
John
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09-08-2010, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
45% of the jobs are currently with companies who employ less than 50
84.3% of the jobs are currently with companies who employ less than 500
16.3% of the jobs are currently with companies who employ 500 or more.
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I wonder what those numbers would look like if they included overseas employees for good old 'Merkin companies like Dell or GE.
John
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09-08-2010, 10:22 AM
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Now that's America!
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Lol. Yeah partic old rust belt cities like Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit.
We just had another phase of our awesome corruption come out, property values at the county assesors office changed with whiteout. A LOT of them.
The leadership here is gonna fry. Me, I'm bringing beer and hot dogs.
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09-08-2010, 10:24 AM
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John, how about Rohm Emmanuel and his sweet oil-backed rent deal?
Pete
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09-08-2010, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Lol. Yeah partic old rust belt cities like Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit.
We just had another phase of our awesome corruption come out, property values at the county assesors office changed with whiteout. A LOT of them.
The leadership here is gonna fry. Me, I'm bringing beer and hot dogs.
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lol, sounds like a plan
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09-08-2010, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
I'd also suggest that the concept of monopolies are an anachronism in an age of economic globalism and high technology where a service or a concept, rather than a physical product, can hold the most currency.
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Services like liar loans? Concepts like tranching?
John
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09-08-2010, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
I wonder what those numbers would look like if they included overseas employees for good old 'Merkin companies like Dell or GE.
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You can add the energizer bunny to that lot. Picked up my lantern to get better light on something and it was dead. New big 6 volt lantern battery only a week ago. Lens was full of what I thought was water, now how in hell did that get in there. Opened it up and saw the + post had fallen off. The damn battery had leaked electrolyte inside the lantern and all over my workbench. Proudly written on the side of this Everready battery "Made in China". It really should have said "Made in Effing China".
GE is closing a light bulb plant just up the road in Westminster because they can't compete with China - yet there have been instances of those CFLs catching fire - you won't find the damn things in this house. They bother Florence's eys, had to replace a flourescent over the kitchen sink, and as long as they come from China screw them.
Tax breaks? What we should do is put all the boards of directors in jail for treason.
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09-08-2010, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
The profits that businesses were showing though mid 2010, which have eroded somewhat in the last couple of months, were due to gains in efficiency due and lower expense structures (i.e., lower employment). Net profits are up, but market share, market cap, and gross profits are down. Not encouraging.
OK, I'll won't. I'll let the statistics do it for me.
http://www.adpemploymentreport.com/p..._August_10.pdf
45% of the jobs are currently with companies who employ less than 50
84.3% of the jobs are currently with companies who employ less than 500
16.3% of the jobs are currently with companies who employ 500 or more.
If I had to choose between no tax reduction for business, and a targeted tax reduction for businesses who employ less than 500, I could at least take some solace in the fact that it would assist businesses who do most of the "employing" in this country.
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So how many SBs are there with less than 50, or how many with less than 500? Without knowing that those number are irrelevant.
BTW gross is certainly the right word for profits these days.
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