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Old 04-28-2010, 02:46 PM
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The Kingston Trio nailed it;

The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles
Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch
And I don't like Anybody very much.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:03 PM
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Other than for those killed in the many proxy wars between the US and the Soviets or Chinese or by repressive puppet governments propped up by the big actors.
Or now Iraq and Afghanistan?

It's the sheer volume that was down. We really have been living in a stability few in the history of the world have ever seen.

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Old 04-28-2010, 03:38 PM
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Much of which was due to European Unity, once the EU was formed that ended the probability of WW III breaking out there. The Russians were as aware of MAD as we were so they were not about to screw things up.

As well Europe knew what wars do and were not in the least eager to have another one, NorAm did not feel the effects of war apart from loosing its sons, no one bombed NorAm in any serious fashion unlike Europe. WW I was fought mainly in the trenches, very few bombing raids.
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Old 04-28-2010, 04:00 PM
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Want to know what the future will look like? Go watch Rollerball from 1975. Yeah, not exactly like that, but we're seeing some of it already. Giant corporations are becoming the new government and they don't stop at borders. Seems we're doing everything we can to help them.

This massive distrust of our freely elected government in favor of for-profit companies is one of the more insane things I've ever seen. But it seems to be gaining ground. People marching in the streets to make sure their health care dollars are lining someone's pockets.
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The Kingston Trio nailed it;
Yes, "The Merry Minuet". Randy Newman too with "Drop The Big One".

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Old 04-28-2010, 04:24 PM
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We really have been living in a stability few in the history of the world have ever seen.
Define "we" please. I doubt you'd find many Africans, South and Southeast Asians, Latin Americans or Arabs to agree with you.

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Old 04-28-2010, 07:20 PM
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:36 PM
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Rick and Pete, it looks like you two are saying about the same thing. At least I agree with both of you. I don't believe that backroom dealing among financial and political elites is good for anyone but the elites. As far as corporations rendering government obsolete, it is a legitimate fear, but one I hope will not happen. The Supremes did their part, however, to hasten the approach of the corporatocracy in the US.

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My take, (you asked! lol) is that the upper classes across the globe are working hand in hand to a degree not seen before.

Not exactly world government, but perhaps more sinister, backroom deals involving billions of people and trillions of dollars.

I seriously doubt it's a good thing.

Pete

Hmmmm, interesting. And probably not a good thing for us at the very least.

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I tend to think its more likely that multinational corporations will render national governments obsolete. Any future wars are more likely to be for resources and profits.
Right, right, I see. Corporations keeping government in check, rather than the other way around? Interesting.

I think we've already been there, concerning the cause of wars. You do realize the beef that Japan had with China and the U.S. before WWII was mainly over trade, don't you?
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