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Old 01-11-2018, 09:53 AM
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Interesting that you use that reference. Copernicus and Galileo opposed the "scientific consensus" of their day. The consensus of their day was rooted in religion...
You obviously lack the awareness to realize that the GOP's anti-science stance is largely rooted in their religious beliefs and fealty to the Evangelical community.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...te-change-god/
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Old 01-11-2018, 09:57 AM
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Well, I'm glad then that we can at least agree that the "consensus" on global warming is an opinion, and doesn't rise to the level of "basic scientific facts" that you imbued on it in an earlier post.
We dont agree on jack shit. Only an utter asshole would suggest that they have facts or truth. It's all opinion. Just remember though numbnuts...some opinion is way, way more accurate and well substantiated than other opinion. Climate change accelerated by mankind being one of those.

PS - you lie like a fucking dog. The words "basic scientific facts" did not come from me. Pay attention or STFU.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:53 PM
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You obviously lack the awareness to realize that the GOP's anti-science stance is largely rooted in their religious beliefs and fealty to the Evangelical community.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...te-change-god/
That's one of the left's favorite allegations, of course.
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That's one of the left's favorite allegations, of course.
It is, of course, absolutely true. Today's Religious Right is analogous to the flat-earthers of Galileo's time.
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We dont agree on jack shit. Only an utter asshole would suggest that they have facts or truth. It's all opinion. Just remember though numbnuts...some opinion is way, way more accurate and well substantiated than other opinion. Climate change accelerated by mankind being one of those.

PS - you lie like a fucking dog. The words "basic scientific facts" did not come from me. Pay attention or STFU.
I don't lack sympathy with your basic stance toward this poster, but I am 'forced' to observe that if there are no facts or truth, it is impossible to lie.
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Old 01-17-2018, 02:11 PM
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I don't lack sympathy with your basic stance toward this poster, but I am 'forced' to observe that if there are no facts or truth, it is impossible to lie.
Au contraire. Actually Norman Mailer said it best, "Everybody lies."
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:23 PM
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Au contraire. Actually Norman Mailer said it best, "Everybody lies."
For it to be true that everybody lies, truth must exist.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:09 AM
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For it to be true that everybody lies, truth must exist.
Since when is a lie automatically the opposite of a truth? I've had dozens, maybe more, pathological liars in my caseloads over the years. They lie for no purpose, no reason, other than for some bizarre emotional benefit they get, out of the reactions of those they're lying to. And it has nothing to do with truth.

Besides...you know what I mean. You're just being your delightful contrarian self.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:19 AM
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For it to be true that everybody lies, truth must exist.

I forgot to add...

I already noted in this thread that there is a continuum of opinion. Not all opinion is created equal. Some is based on scientific method, research, study and established methods of determination of each opinion, such as in mental health or medicine where diagnostic tools are used to develop a diagnosis...all of which are clinical opinions.

We don't argue facts or truth here, we argue opinions and the basis for our opinion. And in doing so, some lie their asses off.
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Old 01-22-2018, 01:20 PM
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We dont agree on jack shit. Only an utter asshole would suggest that they have facts or truth. It's all opinion. Just remember though numbnuts...some opinion is way, way more accurate and well substantiated than other opinion. Climate change accelerated by mankind being one of those.

PS - you lie like a fucking dog. The words "basic scientific facts" did not come from me. Pay attention or STFU.
My, my. You are full of your little self, aren't you Ike.

I'm glad we agree that it's all just an opinion, and in this case the opinions are embraced and used by individuals with a specific agenda.

By the way, my nuts are fine. I suspect you're projecting again, but thanks for your concern.
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