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12-18-2016, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
German judges and state prosecutors need to crack down straight away on fake news disseminated through social media platforms such as Facebook, Germany's Justice Minister Heiko Maas said in an interview published on Sunday.
Maas, a Social Democrat in conservative Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition, has repeatedly warned the U.S. technology company to respect laws against defamation in Germany that are more rigid than in the United States. He told the Bild am Sonntag newspaper the principle of free speech did not protect against slander.
"Defamation and malicious gossip are not covered under freedom of speech," Maas said, just days after other top government officials called for legislation to tackle "hate speech" and fake news on Facebook and other social media platforms.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ge...-idUSKBN1470CN
Unlike the OP, it seems that the ever logical Germans are able to recognize what fake news is and isn't.
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Sounds like he wants Facebook, and other social media, to police their sites in a way many Americans would perceive as a restriction to their free speech right. Maybe the Germans will come up with a legislative fake news filter for the Internet and a policing bureau to implement/enforce said filter.
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12-18-2016, 03:06 PM
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Simple fix, just post news that comes from accredited major news organizations.
They can filter porn so I ask why not ISIS and fake news too?
Free speech applies only to government when limiting not private IIRC.
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12-18-2016, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
Simple fix, just post news that comes from accredited major news organizations.
They can filter porn so I ask why not ISIS and fake news too?
Free speech applies only to government when limiting not private IIRC.
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They could do it, but they're more concerned with ad revenue than they are with ensuring that they don't post fake news. Fake news gets so many hits that Facebook profits heavily from it.
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12-18-2016, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
Simple fix, just post news that comes from accredited major news organizations.
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Like Fox, CNN, MSNBC, HUFF etc.
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12-18-2016, 05:00 PM
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They could do it, but they're more concerned with ad revenue than they are with ensuring that they don't post fake news. Fake news gets so many hits that Facebook profits heavily from it.
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Ahhhh Capitalism rises it's head and strikes again!
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12-19-2016, 07:20 AM
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Well, at least the Germans had 25 or so years of Freedom of the Press since reunification. Looks like Merkel wants to return to the "good old days" of the GDR.
Really, the German's want to regulate malicious gossip on Facebook? That'll be fun to watch.
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12-19-2016, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
Simple fix, just post news that comes from accredited major news organizations.
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Just like they used to do in Nazi Germany. Interesting idea Barney. Who does the accreditation? The "party"?
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12-19-2016, 07:34 AM
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Just like they used to do in Nazi Germany. Interesting idea Barney. Who does the accreditation? The "party"?
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Accredited news backs up their stories with facts and names on record. These are checked and we have someone taking responsibility. Not trolls using their imagination to conjure in order to get clicks for revenue.
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12-19-2016, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Well, at least the Germans had 25 or so years of Freedom of the Press since reunification. Looks like Merkel wants to return to the "good old days" of the GDR.
Really, the German's want to regulate malicious gossip on Facebook? That'll be fun to watch.
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You obviously know nothing about Germany or German law. They have had laws against malicious and false insults (Beleidigung) and other restraints on press freedom and freedom of expression for decades, as had Britain and most other countries of Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...ountry#Germany
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Last edited by finnbow; 12-19-2016 at 07:49 AM.
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12-19-2016, 10:26 AM
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You obviously know nothing about Germany or German law. They have had laws against malicious and false insults (Beleidigung) and other restraints on press freedom and freedom of expression for decades, as had Britain and most other countries of Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...ountry#Germany
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You're such a clueless tool. Look what you posted:
German judges and state prosecutors need to crack down straight away on fake news disseminated through social media platforms such as Facebook, Germany's Justice Minister Heiko Maas said in an interview published on Sunday.
The call here is not JUST about dealing with folks saying nasty things about each other on Facebook. The Justice Minister as saying he thinks German judges and state prosecutors need to sift through Facebook posts and police the content. How do you think this will happen? What does the process look like? Who gets to decide what gets prosecuted and what doesn't? Who make the rules? Just like in any bureaucracy, it won't be the law that provides the boundaries. It will be individuals making the rules and creating the processes whereby "offenders" will be identified and prosecuted.
In a way, this is poetic justice. Zuckerberg supported folks who think like this in the most recent election. We thankfully didn't let them near the White House in this election, but Zuckerberg may someday have to deal with this in Europe. Won't that interesting to watch?
Last edited by whell; 12-19-2016 at 10:33 AM.
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