California Propositions?

[bobabode]

Locals Only, Dudes & Dudettes!

Just kidding, feel free to bash California politics all you want.

I don't know how the rest of you do it but we like to amend our constitution every couple of years. Pester enough people outside of grocery stores, post offices and the like and then we all get to vote stuff that keeps our state supreme court in business, occasionally striking down some massively ill conceived crap.(Prop.8 was one such, IIRC) Some call it government by the people and some think it's the tyranny of the masses (and everything in between.) We have to be the promised land for barristers, attorneys, lawyers and others of their ilk. No offense intended. Welllll - maybe just a little.
So off to the races...We have Props 30-40 to vote on this season in addition to the regular choices of the lesser of two evils.
So what do you say senors, senoras and senoritas or if you prefer campesinos & campesinas?


Prop.30 is a temporary tax bump for education - yea
" 31 is a restructuring of gov.(almost always a bad idea) - nay
" 32 is a prohibition on unions donating to political campaigns - nay
" 33 is an auto insurance reform (funded by Mercury Ins. owner) - nay
" 34 is a repeal of the death penalty - yea
" 35 is a law that classifies human trafficking as a sex crime - ?!? - nay?
" 36 is a revision of the three strikes law - yea
" 37 is a requirement for labeling GMOs - yea (genetically modified food)
" 38 is a an income tax increase for 12 yrs. for education pre K-12 - yea
" 39 is a multi=state business tax remedy/clean energy whatchamacallit - yea
" 40 is a redistricting plan for state senators - yea

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Prop.30 is a temporary tax bump for education - yea
" 31 is a restructuring of gov.(almost always a bad idea) - nay
" 32 is a prohibition on unions donating to political campaigns - nay
" 33 is an auto insurance reform (funded by Mercury Ins. owner) - nay
" 34 is a repeal of the death penalty - yea
" 35 is a law that classifies human trafficking as a sex crime - ?!? - nay?
" 36 is a revision of the three strikes law - yea
" 37 is a requirement for labeling GMOs - yea (genetically modified food)
" 38 is a an income tax increase for 12 yrs. for education pre K-12 - yea
" 39 is a multi=state business tax remedy/clean energy whatchamacallit - yea
" 40 is a redistricting plan for state senators - yea

I'm against 30, 37, 38, 39. See, I knew we had some common ground.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by bhunter

I'm against 30, 37, 38, 39. See, I knew we had some common ground.

So, we agree on 34,36 & 40? Eh-it's a start.

Have you read 32 and who gets exemptions from it? Is your last name Koch?

[JJIII]

I would be for 32, 34, and 37. I don't have a dog in the hunt for any of them since i live in Tennessee but those three I agree with.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

So, we agree on 34,36 & 40? Eh-it's a start.

Have you read 32 and who gets exemptions from it? Is your last name Koch?

Ah, I wasn't clear. The only ones where I differ from you are the ones I mentioned. Thus, we only disagree on 4. I'm not opposed to any person or any group contributing money to politicians including unions and corporations.

[Bigerik]

Why would a person be against knowing what is in the food they buy?

[merrylander]

We supposedly have a law that says all food must be labelled by country of origin, but it is mostly ignored.

[Bigerik]

I'd be ok with unions losing the right to buy politicians, as long as corporations lost the right at the same time. Should be just individuals, with a reasonably low cap. Lets say $5000. If every vote is equal, every donation should be equal too.

[Boreas]

I've already voted so don't bother trying to change my mind.

Prop.30 is a temporary tax bump for education - yea

" 31 is a restructuring of gov.(almost always a bad idea) - nay

" 32 is a prohibition on unions donating to political campaigns - nay

" 33 is an auto insurance reform (funded by Mercury Ins. owner) - nay

" 34 is a repeal of the death penalty - yea

" 35 is a law that classifies human trafficking as a sex crime - ?!? - yea

" 36 is a revision of the three strikes law - yea

" 37 is a requirement for labeling GMOs (genetically modified food) - yea

" 38 is a an income tax increase for 12 yrs. for education pre K-12 - no

" 39 is a multi=state business tax remedy/clean energy whatchamacallit - yea

" 40 is a redistricting plan for state senators - yea

Bold where I differed with the OP.

Only 31 and 32 are Constitutional amendmants. I think California's system of amending the Constitution by popular vote is stupid. More stupid is that it only takes a simple majority to do it.

John

[d-ray657]

In light of Citizens United, it would seem to me that number 32 is unconstitutional on its face.

Regards,

D-Ray