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Old 12-11-2014, 03:34 PM
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Like, the Dems are pure as driven snow, looking out for the common guy?

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Old 12-11-2014, 03:40 PM
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The Democrats have their faults, but the worst Democrat is better than the best Republican.
That's not what she said.

"Worst Republican Better than Best Democrat, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin tonight said on Hannity."

Go feast yourself.

http://us4palin.com/worst-republican/
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:53 PM
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That's not what she said.

"Worst Republican Better than Best Democrat, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin tonight said on Hannity."

Go feast yourself.

http://us4palin.com/worst-republican/
I didn't steal it from her.

I've been using the "The Worst _________ is better that the best _______"

line for almost 40 years. I learned it from a former boss of mine back in the 70's.

I guess you could say I stole it from him.
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Old 12-11-2014, 03:01 PM
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Is the playing field level, Pete?

Carson is a damned liar.

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Your deflections are getting tiresome, BTW. Just thought I'd let you know that.

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Actually, he's the worst kind of liar. He hides behind the cross. "A wolf in sheeps clothing. ", as Mom used to say. Something I'm sure he'll burn in hell for.

But, then, that IS the trademark Republican method, isn't it?

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Old 12-11-2014, 04:59 PM
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Just kidding TJ and that any reference to SP may amuse you. I would never credit her with any original thought.
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Old 12-11-2014, 06:00 PM
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Just kidding TJ and that any reference to SP may amuse you. I would never credit her with any original thought.
I know, but I still felt the need to distance myself from her.

I only live 3,448 as the crow flies miles from her.

http://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-is-it-between.htm

That's too close for comfort.
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Old 12-12-2014, 07:04 AM
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The tow scandal in St. Louis brings back fond memories of cars being stolen from the local black community.... by police.

Missouri: Police Caught Driving Impounded Cars
Police in St. Louis seized cars, then freely drove them for months at a time. Perk extended to troubled daughter of police chief.

Aimie Mokwa 2007 booking photoCars seized from motorists are being used as the personal rides of police officers and their relatives in St. Louis, Missouri. St. Louis Post-Dispatch investigative reporters uncovered the scandal while tracking down how Aimie Mokwa, 33, daughter of Police Chief Joe Mokwa, ended up driving vehicles registered to St. Louis Metropolitan Towing and its subsidiaries.

Like many cities across the nation, St. Louis has adopted an ordinance giving police officers the ability to grab automobiles from people suspected, not necessarily convicted, of certain crimes. Cars not recovered within thirty days are declared the property of St. Louis Metropolitan Towing, which splits profit from towing fees with the city. Such arrangements can generate millions in revenue for municipalities.

The St. Louis program had an additional benefit. The tow yard became a virtual rental car agency for local police officers who would take out "abandoned" cars for their own free, personal use for months at a time. The "test drive" privilege extended also to Aimie Mokwa.

If the officers and their relatives enjoyed the vehicles, they were offered the opportunity to purchase them at discounts of up to 75 percent. For example, Aimie Mokwa "rented" a one-year-old Dodge Neon that had been impounded in May 2001. In September 2002 she flipped the Neon after crashing into two parked cars on perfectly dry pavement.

Aimie Mokwa replaced the Neon with a 1999 Ford Escort that she purchased from the tow company for $1100, even though its book value was at least $3750. She rear-ended another car with the Escort in January 2003. Officers investigating the collision determined she had a blood alcohol level of 0.17, but they did not charge her with drunk driving. In December 2006, Aimie Mokwa bought a 2004 Chevy Malibu from the tow yard for $1500, despite the vehicle having a book value of at least $5850. Last October, she bought a 1999 Dodge Dakota for $850, even though the vehicle was worth at least $5025.

On Friday, the St. Louis Board of Police Commissioners released the report of a private law firm hired by the department to investigate the free car program. It concluded no laws were broken.

"The most that can be said would be that [the towing firm] is endeavoring to create a reservoir of future good will with the 4th District and the Department generally," the report said, as quoted by the Post-Dispatch.

Source: Tow firm Deals draw questions (St Louis Post-Dispatch (MO), 7/20/2008)

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2476.asp

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...c2b2dca2a.html

http://confluencecity.blogspot.com/2...ares-greg.html

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...ca5079469.html

http://www.stlamerican.com/news/poli...286b693c8.html

http://confluencecity.blogspot.com/2...-sketches.html

One of my classmates from another college frat was the lawyer for the car theft victims, and has some very interesting stories about $10,000 handshakes. The city police chief's daughter put on over 30,000 miles on illegally towed vehicles that were loaned to her, while impounded, and had numerous accidents in these vehicles. The one that broke the scandal wide open was when she flipped a car while coked out.

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Old 12-12-2014, 04:43 PM
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The tow scandal in St. Louis brings back fond memories of cars being stolen from the local black community.... by police.

Missouri: Police Caught Driving Impounded Cars
Police in St. Louis seized cars, then freely drove them for months at a time. Perk extended to troubled daughter of police chief.

Aimie Mokwa 2007 booking photoCars seized from motorists are being used as the personal rides of police officers and their relatives in St. Louis, Missouri. St. Louis Post-Dispatch investigative reporters uncovered the scandal while tracking down how Aimie Mokwa, 33, daughter of Police Chief Joe Mokwa, ended up driving vehicles registered to St. Louis Metropolitan Towing and its subsidiaries.

Like many cities across the nation, St. Louis has adopted an ordinance giving police officers the ability to grab automobiles from people suspected, not necessarily convicted, of certain crimes. Cars not recovered within thirty days are declared the property of St. Louis Metropolitan Towing, which splits profit from towing fees with the city. Such arrangements can generate millions in revenue for municipalities.

The St. Louis program had an additional benefit. The tow yard became a virtual rental car agency for local police officers who would take out "abandoned" cars for their own free, personal use for months at a time. The "test drive" privilege extended also to Aimie Mokwa.

If the officers and their relatives enjoyed the vehicles, they were offered the opportunity to purchase them at discounts of up to 75 percent. For example, Aimie Mokwa "rented" a one-year-old Dodge Neon that had been impounded in May 2001. In September 2002 she flipped the Neon after crashing into two parked cars on perfectly dry pavement.

Aimie Mokwa replaced the Neon with a 1999 Ford Escort that she purchased from the tow company for $1100, even though its book value was at least $3750. She rear-ended another car with the Escort in January 2003. Officers investigating the collision determined she had a blood alcohol level of 0.17, but they did not charge her with drunk driving. In December 2006, Aimie Mokwa bought a 2004 Chevy Malibu from the tow yard for $1500, despite the vehicle having a book value of at least $5850. Last October, she bought a 1999 Dodge Dakota for $850, even though the vehicle was worth at least $5025.

On Friday, the St. Louis Board of Police Commissioners released the report of a private law firm hired by the department to investigate the free car program. It concluded no laws were broken.

"The most that can be said would be that [the towing firm] is endeavoring to create a reservoir of future good will with the 4th District and the Department generally," the report said, as quoted by the Post-Dispatch.

Source: Tow firm Deals draw questions (St Louis Post-Dispatch (MO), 7/20/2008)

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/24/2476.asp

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...c2b2dca2a.html

http://confluencecity.blogspot.com/2...ares-greg.html

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...ca5079469.html

http://www.stlamerican.com/news/poli...286b693c8.html

http://confluencecity.blogspot.com/2...-sketches.html

One of my classmates from another college frat was the lawyer for the car theft victims, and has some very interesting stories about $10,000 handshakes. The city police chief's daughter put on over 30,000 miles on illegally towed vehicles that were loaned to her, while impounded, and had numerous accidents in these vehicles. The one that broke the scandal wide open was when she flipped a car while coked out.
OK, I read the links. Seems like a heck of a scandal that resulted in:

1) Lots of black folks who basically had their cars stolen by the police dept's towing contractor never getting anything back.

2) The tow operators doing a year (prob less) in jail.

3) The police chief getting paid 100K to retire early on.

4) Two low-level cops (black, incidentally) doing a year or less in jail.

5) One whistleblower cop getting over a year off without pay.

6) The FBI man in charge of the investigation quitting.

7) And the whole thing kinda dies out after all that.

All hail the thin blue lie!
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