18 and Dead.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

The vid totally changes the narrative.

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Yes, indeed, it truly does.

Just don't confuse the narrative with reality.



(PS. It was meant to change the narrative. Don't you think that's a little manipulative, on someone's part?)

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I'm paying my bookie with a box of cheap cigars? Hate to say it, but the way he acted was pretty bad. And it's actual, not conjecture.

He's lucky the store owner didn't shoot him.

Pete

It was bad.

He's lucky I didn't walk into that store right then, I'd have set his fat 300 lbs ass straight in a hurry. But that still doesn't justify what the cop did.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Don't you find it at least strangely coincidental that the rogue racist murdering cop happened to decide to kill a black kid this particular day, and that the kid he chose just happened to have only minutes earlier committed theft? I mean, what are the odds?

No amount of spin is going to convince me that it's OK for a cop to shoot an unarmed man who is surrendering.

Find me some video of Brown raping a three year old child and I'll probably change my tune.

But for a box of cigars and a push?

No.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Yes, indeed, it truly does.

Just don't confuse the narrative with reality.



(PS. It was meant to change the narrative. Don't you think that's a little manipulative, on someone's part?)

Just as withholding it would have been. It is plainly what it is, testament to what preceeded the encounter.


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[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

No amount of spin is going to convince me that it's OK for a cop to shoot an unarmed man who is surrendering.

"Surrendering" is an assumption at this point if he was advancing with hands up.

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[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I'm paying my bookie with a box of cheap cigars? Hate to say it, but the way he acted was pretty bad. And it's actual, not conjecture.

He's lucky the store owner didn't shoot him.

Pete

Again, the argument is not about Browns goodness or badness. The example you allude to was just one possibility used to show there are alternatives. That is, besides the state-of-mind Zeke is sure he has deduced.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

"Surrendering" is an assumption at this point if he was advancing with hands up.

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Surrendering with hands up is an assumption backed up by eye witness accounts.

Advancing is an assumption not backed up by eye witness accounts.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Don't you find it at least strangely coincidental that the rogue racist murdering cop happened to decide to kill a black kid this particular day, and that the kid he chose just happened to have only minutes earlier committed theft? I mean, what are the odds?

Fallacious probability argument. It's like saying' isn't it strangely coincidental that the day I don't change my underwear, I hit a home run?' You can wear stinky underwear all you want, but it won't improve your batting average.

Independent events are independent.

[4-2-7]

And in the end this will blow over and the cop will get a job elsewhere.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

It was bad.

He's lucky I didn't walk into that store right then, I'd have set his fat 300 lbs ass straight in a hurry. But that still doesn't justify what the cop did.

I tend to agree however I wouldn't bat an eye if the owner shot him.

But IF you assault an officer guess what happens? And that's the crux of the biscuit. Unless some serious evidence comes forth that cop will rightfully walk.

Pete