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04-20-2018, 12:50 PM
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Another DNC Trainwreck
D.N.C. Lawsuit Alleges Trump-Russia Conspiracy
Why? Must be a two year cycle of being stupid (Hint: H-->) instead of focusing on things that really matter. Like have a message to the voters instead of Trump is bad.
Don't you normally wait for the issue to be settled before suing for damages? This is really going to enrage and energize the wingnuts making Mueller's job a lot more difficult. Is it because of all the limelight that DNC enemy Comey is getting while Hillary is complaining in the background that nobody likes her. Count me in.
Proves once again to me that the DNC is fundamentally stupid.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/u...p-lawsuit.html
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04-20-2018, 01:07 PM
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If Nunes had run a legitimate investigation rather than a cover-up for Trump, the DNC would likely have not done this. Now, if this case goes forward, all of Trump's minions can be deposed under oath by real investigators. Something similar was done by the DNC during Watergate and they were awarded a bunch of money for it.
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04-20-2018, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
If Nunes had run a legitimate investigation rather than a cover-up for Trump, the DNC would likely have not done this. Now, if this case goes forward, all of Trump's minions can be deposed under oath by real investigators. Something similar was done by the DNC during Watergate and they were awarded a bunch of money for it.
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House investigations are far more likely to be circuses than they are to accomplish anything productive.
That said, you also have had an FBI investigation, a Senate investigation and now a Special Counsel. None of them have found any evidence of that which the Dems are claiming in their CIVIL suit.
The Dems know there's zero evidence of Russian collusion. Schiff has stated that there's no evidence. Mark Warner has said that there's no evidence. DiFi has said she's not seen any evidence. Joe Manchin has said there's no evidence. Hell, even Maxine Waters admits there's no evidence. You're probably one of the remaining few and proud hyper-ventilators that still think there is evidence, you poor deluded fool.
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04-20-2018, 04:38 PM
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House investigations are far more likely to be circuses than they are to accomplish anything productive.
That said, you also have had an FBI investigation, a Senate investigation and now a Special Counsel. None of them have found any evidence of that which the Dems are claiming in their CIVIL suit.
The Dems know there's zero evidence of Russian collusion. Schiff has stated that there's no evidence. Mark Warner has said that there's no evidence. DiFi has said she's not seen any evidence. Joe Manchin has said there's no evidence. Hell, even Maxine Waters admits there's no evidence. You're probably one of the remaining few and proud hyper-ventilators that still think there is evidence, you poor deluded fool.
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Actually, the FBI investigation was rolled into the Special Counsel's. As for the Senate's investigation, I still don't have full confidence in the Republicans, particularly after their ridiculous reaction to the Comey memos (somehow they think they proved Comey to be the liar and Trump the truth-teller ), not to mention their silence about Nunes' disreputable and unethical antics.
Read items 6-19 starting on page 6 of the lawsuit. Sounds like quite a bit of evidence.
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/doc...ikileaks/2914/
In a civil suit, the standard of proof is a "preponderance of evidence" supporting the allegation as opposed to "beyond a reasonable doubt." Moreover, "pleading the fifth" in a civil case or deposition allows an inference of guilt, unlike in a criminal trial. In any event, a similar civil suit was filed against Nixon and his henchmen during Watergate and the DNC won a settlement of $750K.
If it also serves to keep the Democratic base on a low boil and increase contributions to the DNC, no harm in that.
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04-24-2018, 06:51 AM
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Actually, the FBI investigation was rolled into the Special Counsel's. As for the Senate's investigation, I still don't have full confidence in the Republicans, particularly after their ridiculous reaction to the Comey memos (somehow they think they proved Comey to be the liar and Trump the truth-teller ), not to mention their silence about Nunes' disreputable and unethical antics.
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Oh, you mean the memos that the Inspector General is now recommending charges against Comey for leaking?
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What they have is hearsay, innuendo and (to borrow from Donny's cute reference), "'No true Scotsman' fallacy".
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In a civil suit, the standard of proof is a "preponderance of evidence" supporting the allegation as opposed to "beyond a reasonable doubt." Moreover, "pleading the fifth" in a civil case or deposition allows an inference of guilt, unlike in a criminal trial. In any event, a similar civil suit was filed against Nixon and his henchmen during Watergate and the DNC won a settlement of $750K.
If it also serves to keep the Democratic base on a low boil and increase contributions to the DNC, no harm in that.
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I thought you weren't a Democrat?
You and your fellow Dems have been hoping breathlessly for criminal charges to come from any or all of the various investigations. Since there's NO EVIDENCE of any collusion, you now turn to a civil suit because the breathless hope for criminal charges has crumbled.
I think you're absolutely right, the suit is all about fun-raising and keeping folks like you riled up. Now, go run and get your checkbook.
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04-24-2018, 07:18 AM
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Oh, you mean the memos that the Inspector General is now recommending charges against Comey for leaking?
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The IG has not recommended charges.
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What they have is hearsay, innuendo and (to borrow from Donny's cute reference), "'No true Scotsman' fallacy".
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Actually, all of the items on that list are factual. List for me all of those which are hearsay or innuendo.
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I was a registered Republican until 2003. Now I'm an independent and align more closely with former Republican Never-Trumpers.
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04-21-2018, 07:32 AM
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Hell, even Maxine Waters admits there's no evidence.
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I do not believe that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x9h0n4PRNk
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04-21-2018, 09:51 AM
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You know that Whell is getting desperate if he is using Maxine Waters as a character witness for the Dotard.
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04-20-2018, 01:35 PM
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Thanks Finn, I will read up on it later today.
But in this instance, both the DNC and Trump Campaign cheated. Trump was better at it.
Hillary should accept that she is not well liked by the electorate and stay out of politics for now.
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04-20-2018, 02:56 PM
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