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Old 02-18-2022, 05:45 PM
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Unless you're completely missing the point. Is that conceivably possible, either by happenstance, or on purpose?
I'm thinking that you didn't get #23's point which is probably why I didn't get your point. Or is your point that you don't have to have a point to have a point. But what do I know? As you recently pointed out, I'm always wrong.
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Old 02-19-2022, 06:20 AM
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Much needs to worried about when any country depends , relies on an adversary for continued sustenance. Much like China and loans to keep US a float now fuel and Russia....

What concessions are ahead or behind?

With Russia's little regard for environmental impact troubling times ahead for the planet.
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Old 02-19-2022, 07:52 AM
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Much needs to worried about when any country depends , relies on an adversary for continued sustenance. Much like China and loans to keep US a float now fuel and Russia....

What concessions are ahead or behind?

With Russia's little regard for environmental impact troubling times ahead for the planet.
When corporations run up against environmental regulations they go abroad and/or "greenwash" their methods.
Many of the so-called scarce minerals are here in the US. The manufacture of batteries for electric vehicles is going to tax the planet.

https://theguardian.com/commentisfre...lt-flats-chile
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Old 02-19-2022, 10:32 AM
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When corporations run up against environmental regulations they go abroad and/or "greenwash" their methods.
Many of the so-called scarce minerals are here in the US. The manufacture of batteries for electric vehicles is going to tax the planet.

https://theguardian.com/commentisfre...lt-flats-chile

Plus the myth of recycling of materials....as long as it is cheaper to just produce new from scratch, then recycle used. Plastic is one of the worse uses of fossil fuel supplies.
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Old 02-19-2022, 10:42 AM
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When corporations run up against environmental regulations they go abroad and/or "greenwash" their methods.
Many of the so-called scarce minerals are here in the US. The manufacture of batteries for electric vehicles is going to tax the planet.

https://theguardian.com/commentisfre...lt-flats-chile

Electric cars are a solution that is part of the problem. In order to reduce carbon emissions enough to stop, but not reverse Gobal Warming, would require reducing the world's standard of living by 50 percent which isn't going to happen. For the west, which would experience the greatest decrease, the Great Depression would become the good old days.

I think you are correct that oil is playing a role in the Ukraine that is being 'overlooked' due to bad optics for the US.
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