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Old 07-18-2017, 12:53 PM
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So you were just ranting at Chicks for the fun of it?
Nope, I was responding to your post.

Nice attempt to deflect away from another faulty analysis/assumption on your part though.
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:53 PM
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Delusional Trump threatens to shoot the hostage

"Speaking to reporters in the Roosevelt Room on Tuesday afternoon, Trump said he was “disappointed” in the demise of the Senate bill. Now his plan is “to let Obamacare fail; it will be a lot easier,” he said. “And I think we’re probably in that position where we’ll let Obamacare fail.”
“We’re not going to own it. I’m not going to own it,” the president said. “I can tell you the Republicans are not going to own it. We’ll let Obamacare fail, and then the Democrats are going to come to us.” WP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.f88eb70c88b4
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:59 PM
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If your TSP contributions were pretax, you'll be forced to draw from them starting at age 70.5. IRS sez so.
Tell me something I'm not aware of, Count Zero. That required withdrawal will then reside in savings and I probably won't touch it. Didn't I already say that?
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:24 PM
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Tell me something I'm not aware of, Count Zero. That required withdrawal will then reside in savings and I probably won't touch it. Didn't I already say that?
Crusty old cuss, aren't ya? .
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:01 PM
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"Speaking to reporters in the Roosevelt Room on Tuesday afternoon, Trump said he was “disappointed” in the demise of the Senate bill. Now his plan is “to let Obamacare fail; it will be a lot easier,” he said. “And I think we’re probably in that position where we’ll let Obamacare fail.”

“We’re not going to own it. I’m not going to own it,” the president said. “I can tell you the Republicans are not going to own it. We’ll let Obamacare fail, and then the Democrats are going to come to us.” WP



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He simply does not understand how things work in gov.
If health care becomes a mess on his watch, it is his to own whether he likes it or not.
And if they had just fixed the parts of Obamacare that needed fixing... everything would be working out fine and, he could have owned that.... except he is too arrogant to see the bigger picture.
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:05 PM
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Here you go, zero.... the copy of the copy of the link broke

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/4944...5%3a00%3a00%27

and here is the pretty picture

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...me-Image_0.png

Facts are interesting, unlike unsubstantiated drivel. In 2013, households in the top, middle, and bottom income quintiles received 53, 14, and 5 percent, respectively, of the nation's before-tax income and paid 69, 9, and 1 percent, respectively, of federal taxes.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/51361

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Old 07-18-2017, 08:16 PM
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Zero, why don't you use the CBO reports to buttress your arguments?
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:27 PM
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He simply does not understand how things work in gov.
If health care becomes a mess on his watch, it is his to own whether he likes it or not.
And if they had just fixed the parts of Obamacare that needed fixing... everything would be working out fine and, he could have owned that.... except he is too arrogant to see the bigger picture.
Yep. Spiteful, belligerent and arrogant.
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Old 07-18-2017, 11:29 PM
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"Speaking to reporters in the Roosevelt Room on Tuesday afternoon, Trump said he was “disappointed” in the demise of the Senate bill. Now his plan is “to let Obamacare fail; it will be a lot easier,” he said. “And I think we’re probably in that position where we’ll let Obamacare fail.”
“We’re not going to own it. I’m not going to own it,” the president said. “I can tell you the Republicans are not going to own it. We’ll let Obamacare fail, and then the Democrats are going to come to us.” WP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.f88eb70c88b4
Amazing, the president of our country, indeed an entire political party that would like nothing better than to have american health care fail. They would rather this country fail than do their fucking jobs and work for the people.

I call those folks traitors, string em' up.
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Old 07-19-2017, 05:33 AM
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One aspect of what Trump is saying is absolutely true.

He can make ACA fail, totally, within three years. Fail to process pledged moneys to the insurance companies. Fail to promulgate reimbursement rates, cost schedules, and coverage specials until the last minute(which is what has happened for close to two years), making insurance companies guess what their budgets and income streams will be.
Make it next to impossible for insurance companies have the time to compensate timewise for changes in regulations. Make everything involved with the processas uncertain as possible.
This is how to drive insurance companies out of the market.
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