Elon Musk started a price war that Tesla can't win

[Dondilion]

Just bad mouthing Elon!
What is missing...Americans cannot afford cars/trucks at the prevailing prices.

The American consumer is maxed out. Debt rides the highways.

That is why there is great fear of Chinese going to Mexico to build cars...$16,000 dollar cars.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Just bad mouthing Elon!
What is missing...Americans cannot afford cars/trucks at the prevailing prices.

The American consumer is maxed out. Debt rides the highways.

That is why there is great fear of Chinese going to Mexico to build cars...$16,000 dollar cars.

Henry Ford built cars that the average person could afford. Elon targeted wealthy liberals. Not smart. His Cybertruck is a joke.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Just bad mouthing Elon!
What is missing...Americans cannot afford cars/trucks at the prevailing prices.

The American consumer is maxed out. Debt rides the highways.

That is why there is great fear of Chinese going to Mexico to build cars...$16,000 dollar cars.

A bigger issue is that Tesla once was a niche product, largely bought in the US by wealthy liberals. Now nearly every vehicle manufacturer has multiple EV models and those manufacturers haven't alienated their potential buyers by embracing far-right ideology and conspiracy theories.

As for Mexico, pretty much all the big manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler, Nissan, Volkswagen) have a significant presence there already. And the Tesla's Cybertruck makes one wonder if Elon is still serious about making desirable vehicles.

[Human]

Originally Posted by finnbow

A bigger issue is that Tesla once was a niche product, largely bought in the US by wealthy liberals.

A fact seemingly not noticed by Elon Musk, who has gone out of his way to piss off wealthy liberals.

I have no delusions that many if not most company CEOs are conservatives, but most have the common sense to keep it somewhat low key.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Human

A fact seemingly not noticed by Elon Musk, who has gone out of his way to piss off wealthy liberals.

I have no delusions that many if not most company CEOs are conservatives, but most have the common sense to keep it somewhat low key.

Being a conservative titan of industry is normal, expected and non-controversial. Being a conspiracy-addled, delusional fanboy of authoritarianism, racism and anti-Semitism while praising Putin (i.e., an outspoken MAGAt) is something else altogether.

[Human]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Being a conservative titan of industry is normal, expected and non-controversial. Being a conspiracy-addled, delusional fanboy of authoritarianism, racism and anti-Semitism while praising Putin (i.e., an outspoken MAGAt) is something else altogether.

Yes, conservative ≠ MAGA wingnut.

[BigElCat]

There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.

I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.

[Human]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.

I call bullshit on you having knowledge of future battery technology that is not common knowledge.

[init4fun]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.

I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.

Hi BigElCat,

If your talking about the so called "Graphene" batteries, they are already here....


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