Birther video............

[BlueStreak]

..............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u3Ax...layer_embedded

Enjoy,
Dave

[Boreas]

Wow, who'd a thunk the Evil Voodoo Magic Guy would be Canadian? So.... they must be in on it too!

John

[merrylander]

He said Hey not Eh.

[finnbow]

It makes perfect sense to me now that someone has taken the time to explain it.

[d-ray657]

It's dangerous to follow a link to Youtube. You see the links on the side to the related videos and end up burning some time. The video linked above was hilarious. Thanks, Dave. I followed a link to another video that was almost as funny. Chris Matthews politely shredded Gordon Liddy. Liddy in claiming that Obama was born in Kenya, came accross as an addled old man when he tried to respond to questions about the conspiracy. (No ageism intended there, Rob. Just an accurate description. You'd run circles around that doofus too.)

Not only are the claims lacking in logic, the birthers have to stretch the truth (uh, lie) to make their point. What Liddy referred to as a sworn deposition from Obama's paternal grandmother was an affidavit from another witness based upon hearsay. The witness claimed to have heard the grandmother state that Obama was born in Kenya. A review of the affidavit shows that the grandmother was asked a leading question through an interpreter. The question stated allegations that were partially true and partially false. She was asked whether she was present when Obama was born in Kenya, to which she responded yes. She later clarified that she was present at the birth in Hawaii.

That is the kind of question that I constantly warn witnesses about when I am preparing them for depositions or other testimony. The tendency is to hear the first part of the question and prepare to answer without hearing the whole question. In doing that, the witness would answer the question "were you present at the birth" without paying close enough attention to answer the rest of the question "in Kenya." I saw it happen as a rookie lawyer and vowed to never let that happen again. An objection to such a question would be sustained in court as an improper compound question, or as a question assuming facts not in evidence.

Sorry, to go on. I just don't like slick lawyering and I don't slick political operatives turned slimy talk show host.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

When my Dad lost his right leg just below the knee in an industrial accident the company's lawyer tried that on him. The judge said answer yes or no, Dad very quickly said "Yes with reservations" giving his lawyer the opening to put the clarification before the court.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

He said Hey not Eh.

Yeah, Rob, I know but the voice sounded just like Dave Thomas playing Doug McKenzie on the old SCTV show's "Great White North".

John

[BlueStreak]

My question has always been this;

If his mother was an American citizen, (And she was.) then would he not automatically be an American citizen upon birth regardless of where he was actually born?

Case in point;

I have a friend whose father was a French immigrant, his mother American. Charley was born in Marseilles, France while his parents were there visiting family. His parents returned to the US, with him of course, when he was an infant. He has dual citizenship because he was born in France, but his parents were American citizens.

Obamas mother was an American citizen, born in Kansas. His father was a Kenyan citizen, but here in the US on a legal student visa, AFAIK. So, as I see it, it really wouldn't matter if he had been born in Kenya. Just as it doesn't matter at all that John McCain was born in Panama. McCains parents were American citizens.

So, born in Kenya, born in Panama, born on the friggin' moon..........what difference does it really make? None, that's what. It's just another pointless bit of nothingness for dumbass teabaggers to rant about.

Dave

[piece-itpete]

I am skepitical of the foreign born thing. But Obama has obviously spared no expense on making his (recorded) past disappear. Why?

Pete

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I am skepitical of the foreign born thing. But Obama has obviously spared no expense on making his (recorded) past disappear. Why?

Pete

Proof?