|
|
We appreciate your help
in keeping this site going.
|
|
02-06-2024, 09:40 AM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 13,359
|
|
Trump is not immune in 2020 election interference case, appeals court rules
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/sup...fer-rcna133234
WTF took them so long to come to this glaringly obvious conclusion!?
__________________
"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -
George Orwell
|
02-06-2024, 11:06 AM
|
|
Reformed Know-Nothing
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,913
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicks
|
I'm betting they wrote their unanimous and detailed 57-page ruling to be so convincing that SCOTUS will not grant a certiorari petition (i.e., they'll let the appeals court decision stand and won't hear the case).
Here are some choice excerpts from the court's ruling:
For the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen Trump, with all of the defenses of any other criminal defendant. But any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as President no longer protects him against this prosecution.
During President Trump’s 2021 impeachment proceedings for incitement of insurrection, his counsel argued that instead of post-Presidency impeachment, the appropriate vehicle for “investigation, prosecution, and punishment” is “the article III courts,” as “[w]e have a judicial process” and “an investigative process . . . to which no former officeholder is immune.”
It would be a striking paradox if the President, who alone is vested with the constitutional duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,” were the sole officer capable of defying those laws with impunity.
We cannot accept former President Trump’s claim that a President has unbounded authority to commit crimes that would neutralize the most fundamental check on executive power—the recognition and implementation of election results. Nor can we sanction his apparent contention that the Executive has carte blanche to violate the rights of individual citizens to vote and to have their votes count.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Last edited by finnbow; 02-06-2024 at 12:10 PM.
|
02-06-2024, 04:36 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sierras
Posts: 14,209
|
|
^^And while the justices wrote "For the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen Trump.....", operative word being criminal, Trump's House allies are doing an official whitewash of his attempted insurrection.
Quote:
“Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that former President Donald J. Trump did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or give aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”
|
Too bad that this resolution if passed will not have any legal weight but Gaetz and Stefanik have risen to the occasion and drafted this resolution. For Gaetz this could an "honor among predators" moment, but Elise? Probably trying harder since she is not on Trump's short list that we know of.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...rection-trump/
__________________
White Christian Nationalism:
Freedom for us, order for everyone else, and violence for those who transgress.
|
02-06-2024, 09:59 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 6,111
|
|
I like the tRump is a "criminal defendant" part.
__________________
Joe whupped him before and he'll do it once more.
BIDEN/HARRIS IN 2024
|
02-08-2024, 12:04 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 13,359
|
|
Well, this hearing is going about as expected. The "strict textualists" are only strict about the clear text of the Constitution when it suits their biases. Sad.
__________________
"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -
George Orwell
|
02-08-2024, 12:09 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sierras
Posts: 14,209
|
|
^^Using the excuse that one state cannot decide a candidates fate in all other states is a lame excuse while avoiding to decide whether Trump fomented an insurrection. Back to let the courts decide except every case is hamstrung with appeals and delays.
Justice is swift my ass.
__________________
White Christian Nationalism:
Freedom for us, order for everyone else, and violence for those who transgress.
|
02-08-2024, 02:12 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 6,111
|
|
Down the road I see him declaring there needs to be a do-over of the election he just lost. Claiming all the prosecutions and biased media caused him to lose because of election interference.
__________________
Joe whupped him before and he'll do it once more.
BIDEN/HARRIS IN 2024
|
02-11-2024, 04:18 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 13,359
|
|
__________________
"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -
George Orwell
|
02-11-2024, 05:29 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 6,111
|
|
Anyone else notice that none of Donny's attorneys in none of his cases are trying to get to trial ASAP so they can "prove" his innocence? Not a one.
__________________
Joe whupped him before and he'll do it once more.
BIDEN/HARRIS IN 2024
|
02-15-2024, 11:20 AM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 13,359
|
|
Trump’s first criminal trial will start March 25, judge says
The schedule for Trump’s hush money case in New York means he will spend weeks in court instead of on the campaign trail this spring.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...pdate-00141621
Let's hope his courtroom antics will, quite deservedly, put him behind bars, or at least get him muzzled during the trial.
__________________
"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -
George Orwell
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:34 AM.
|