Hobby Lobby Case To Be Heard Tomorrow

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

The 'church' is behind the Revolution, the end of slavery and suffrage. There are many, many examples of even the least religious founders saying we need Christianity to stay free.

Pete

"The Church" wasn't behind anything, least of all the American Revolution. Individual clergymen spoke out against slavery and for women's suffrage but a far greater number defended slavery and the subjugation of women as the "Law of God". Most, like the denominations they represented, stayed mute. The only exception would be the Society of Friends.

John

[MikeG22]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Parts of the "church" may have supported these efforts (while other parts didn't), but to say they were behind it is certainly a very big stretch.

Didn't they also burn witches?

[piece-itpete]

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel03.html

Pete

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel03.html

Pete

No one is saying that religion had nothing to do with it. The King of England was the titular head of the Church of England and abused his subjects with religious leaders providing cover. This is why, to my mind, we ended up with the high wall of separation.
These bastards at Hobby Lobby and Conestoga are trying to set a precedent to allow their own peculiar brand of theism to dictate what their employees do in their private lives. I don't get why you support them in this.

[donquixote99]

Giving state power to churchmen is the shortest route to tyranny there is.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Giving state power to churchmen is the shortest route to tyranny there is.

Right. Because all too many of them think their word is the word of God. Does that sound like someone given to negotiation and objective thought to you?

Dave

[merrylander]

Before 1776 the Church of England was 'the' church in VA. On Sunday your sorry arse had better be in church or sick in bed otherwise you would spend time in the stocks. And the stocks are still there in Williamsburg. The king or queen is the head of the CoE.

[whell]

Well, this is all well and good. However, now I'm just waiting for the first case of a marriage between, say, two males: one a 16 year old and the other 45 year old. That ought to be interesting to see unfold.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

Well, this is all well and good. However, now I'm just waiting for the first case of a marriage between, say, two males: one a 16 year old and the other 45 year old. That ought to be interesting to see unfold.

I am guessing that you have never seen that occur betweem male and female? Hate to burst your bubble but it happens.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by whell;
Well, this is all well and good. However, now I'm just waiting for the first case of a marriage between, say, two males: one a 16 year old and the other 45 year old. That ought to be interesting to see unfold.

Originally Posted by merrylander

I am guessing that you have never seen that occur betweem male and female? Hate to burst your bubble but it happens.

Didn't the Duck Dynasty patriarch advocate that sort of imbalanced arrangement?

Shame about those opinionated revelations, they looked like an updated Southern fried Earl Hamner "Waltons family" with a business enterprise until papa Phil outed himself as a cracker ignoramus Fred Phelps. He has a right to state whatever opinions he holds as much as those who disagree have the right to resent and revile him for their advocacy.