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Old 07-06-2017, 01:23 PM
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New Study: Temp Adjustments Account For 'Nearly All Warming'

This peer-reviewed study tried to validate current surface temperature datasets managed by NASA, NOAA and the UK’s Met Office, all of which make adjustments to raw thermometer readings. Skeptics of man-made global warming have criticized the adjustments.

“You would think that when you make adjustments you’d sometimes get warming and sometimes get cooling. That’s almost never happened,” said D’Aleo, who co-authored the study with statistician James Wallace and Cato Institute climate scientist Craig Idso.

Their study found measurements “nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history,” which was “nearly always accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern.”

https://thsresearch.files.wordpress....ort-062717.pdf

From the study's summary and conclusion:

The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their
historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data . Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever – despite current claims of record setting warming.

Finally, since GAST data set validity is a necessary condition for EPA’s GHG/CO2 Endangerment Finding, it too is invalidated by these research findings.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:26 PM
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The Cato Institute? No bias there.
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Old 07-06-2017, 01:34 PM
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Cato does geophysics now?
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Old 07-06-2017, 02:03 PM
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The Cato Institute? No bias there.
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming...g-skeptic.html

"Charles Koch co-founded Cato in 1977. Both Charles and David Koch were among the four “shareholders” who “owned” Cato until 2011 [27], and the latter Koch remains a member of Cato’s Board of Directors. [28] Koch foundations contributed more than $5 million to Cato from 1997-2011. [29]"

Whell sure likes to believe nonsense.
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Old 07-06-2017, 03:19 PM
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Lookie! Its the time-honored but utterly head-in-the-sand practice of attacking the source of the info without looking that the info itself. In this case, one of the PhD's who co-authored the study is affiliated with Cato. The other co-authors are:

Dr. Craig Idso, B.S. in Geography from Arizona State University, M.S. in Agronomy from the University of Nebraska - Lincoln, Ph.D. in Geography from Arizona State University. Member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Geophysical Union, American Meteorological Society, Association of American Geographers, Ecological Society of America, The Geological Society of America, and The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi.

Dr. James P. Wallace III Jim Wallace & Associates, LLC Ph.D., Economics, Minor in Engineering, Brown University M.S., Mechanical Engineering, Brown University B.S., Aeronautical Engineering, Brown University

Others who reviewed and agreed with the findings include:

Dr. Alan Carlin
Retired Senior Analyst and manager, US Environmental Protection Agency, Washington, DC. Author, Environmentalism Gone Mad, Stairway Press, 2015.
Ph.D., Economics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA.
BS, Physics, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA.

Dr. Harold H. Doiron
Retired VP-Engineering Analysis and Test Division, InDyne, Inc.
Ex-NASA JSC, Aerospace Consultant
B.S. Physics, University of Louisiana - Lafayette
M.S., Ph.D., Mechanical Engineering, University of Houston

Dr. Theodore R. Eck
Ph.D., Economics, Michigan State University
M.A, Economics, University of Michigan
Fulbright Professor of International Economics
Former Chief Economist of Amoco Corp. and Exxon Venezuela
Advisory Board of the Gas Technology Institute and Energy Intelligence Group

Dr. Richard A. Keen
Instructor Emeritus of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, University of Colorado
Ph.D., Geography/Climatology, University of Colorado
M.S., Astro-Geophysics, University of Colorado
B.A., Astronomy, Northwestern University

Dr. Anthony R. Lupo
IPCC Expert Reviewer
Professor, Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri
Ph.D., Atmospheric Science, Purdue University
M.S., Atmospheric Science, Purdue University

Dr. Thomas P. Sheahen
Ph.D., Physics, M.I.T.
B.S., Physics, M.I.T.

Dr. George T. Wolff
Former Chair EPA's Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee
Ph.D., Environmental Sciences, Rutgers University
M.S., Meteorology, New York University
B.S., Chemical Engineering, New Jersey Institute of Technology

Now, if you want to stick to your positions that these folks are somehow "biased", you'd also have to demonstrate that individuals who are on your side of the argument - like Al Gore :rolleyes" - are not biased. Good luck with that.
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So, you found a handful of cranks while 90% of real climate scientists say we're warming the planet up. Big woo.
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Dr. Craig Idso: Heartland Institute
Dr. James P. Wallace III ... B.S., Aeronautical Engineering, Brown University: Does anyone see anything remotely qualifying him to study climate science?

Don't have time to look up all of these, but I'm pretty sure they are all associated with Big Coal, Big Oil, etc. See my link above, a list of all these orgs that post fraudulent "scientific" studies.
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So, you found a handful of cranks while 90% of real climate scientists say we're warming the planet up. Big woo.
Big woo?
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Old 07-06-2017, 05:58 PM
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See my link above, a list of all these orgs that post fraudulent "scientific" studies.
The lefty UCS link? UCS thinks that scientific studies that don't agree with their agenda is "fraudulent"? Sounds about right.

https://www.activistfacts.com/organi...ed-scientists/
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Big woo?
Get back to us when it's been peer reviewed by a respectable science journal vs. the Cato Institute, a Koch bros. think tank funded by the petro industry. Clear enough?
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