Paul Ryan, Dumbass.

[HarmanKardon]

"Healthy people pay for unhealthy people". Many think so in America, not only the intellectually vacuous balloon head. It is incredible but it is how it is. And as long as this bullshit blocks the common sense of so many, there will no full acceptance of the health insurance.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

No, it's like saying, "I'd like others to pitch in if I have big costs, but I don't want to pitch in for anyone else."

That's exactly what it is. And you can extend that to many things; SS, Medicare, SSDI, etc.,etc......

I have a Republican friend who posted one of those "They who do not work, shall not eat." things on Facebook, yesterday. Then didn't understand when I laughed at him.

He's been on the public dole for the last four years.

It's always okay for them because they are always more deserving...... Or so they think.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

"Healthy people pay for unhealthy people". Many think so in America, not only the intellectually vacuous balloon head. It is incredible but it is how it is. And as long as this bullshit blocks the common sense of so many, there will no full acceptance of the health insurance.

You got it, Chris. We've had right wing propagandists telling people that any kind of "collectivism" is "theft". For a while, they were even referring to Social Security and Medicare as "generational theft"..............Elderly people stealing from the young. You read that right; They see old people are "thieves" and parasites, basically, because they don't work.

Think about how sick that is.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

No, it's like saying, "I'd like others to pitch in if I have big costs, but I don't want to pitch in for anyone else."

No, it's like saying "I have mine and I don't give a shit about you." Having insurance is sharing the risk and pitching in with those who are also insured.

FWIW, finnbow's take was indeed wrong.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I don't think Ryan is that stupid. I think he is a lying, conniving snake who knows that his base is stupid enough to buy that as a reason for killing the Affordable Care Act.

That is the essence of it.

[Rajoo]

I wonder if this can lead to a tax revolt if the so called block grants are disproportionately going to the red staters, as seems to be the case here for states like Alabama and Mississippi. By using Ryan's logic, why should CA & NY pay for the healthcare of AL and MS?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

That is the essence of it.

No ACA repeal, no tax cuts is the way I see it.

Several forms of tax cuts are currently being drafted and all of them lack funds to do it with. One plan reported recently even had the GOP accepting voodoo economics for the payback.

So this is a combination of lying and cooking the books at the same time to fork over a huge tax cut which the country can ill afford, but unfortunately there is a GOP monopoly governing at this time.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

No ACA repeal, no tax cuts is the way I see it.

Several forms of tax cuts are currently being drafted and all of them lack funds to do it with. One plan reported recently even had the GOP accepting voodoo economics for the payback.

So this is a combination of lying and cooking the books at the same time to fork over a huge tax cut which the country can ill afford, but unfortunately there is a GOP monopoly governing at this time.

Tax cuts can be funded with T-bills and treasury notes.

If the GOP has a monopoly, why do we still have Obamacare?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

Tax cuts can be funded with T-bills and treasury notes.

If the GOP has a monopoly, why do we still have Obamacare?

The TEA wingnuts will not go for yet another round of borrowing, which is why ACA and voodoonomics is so crucial to the GOP.

Why do we still have Obamacare? Not for long if the Senate can bribe the naysayers to two, and it seems very likely this time.
I would not bet against the Remove & Replace this time around, not even at 10:1 odds. The Koch Bros. $$$ is too strong a motivator for next years primaries.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by nailer

Tax cuts can be funded with T-bills and treasury notes.

If the GOP has a monopoly, why do we still have Obamacare?

They don't and thank goodness for that. I for one intend to do whatever I can, as feeble as that may be, to see that they never do. I believe the only thing on Gods green earth more evil than the far left is the far right.