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Old 02-14-2017, 03:17 PM
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The President can override the Congress with the veto, Congress can overide a veto and the Supreme Court can overide both by ruling a law unconstitutional. In addition, the court can also overide the President by delaring his actions as unconstitutional and the President can overide the court by ignoring them - as happened with FDR with the internment of Japanese Amerians in WWII.

Bottom line is the legislature, court and executive are seperate and equal branches of govenment and your WaPo quote has Miller reaffiming this. And your intial sentence quoted does not say the President has absolute power, but I understand how those infected with Trumpenfuhrer fever might infer this.
Thanks, somehow it did not come out as I meant to. Too nervous with my appointment with TSA this morning, but I made it through OK.
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Old 02-14-2017, 03:34 PM
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After the court declared it unconstitutional and FDR ignoring them.
Got a reference? I looked and didn't find.
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Old 02-14-2017, 03:40 PM
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Thanks, somehow it did not come out as I meant to. Too nervous with my appointment with TSA this morning, but I made it through OK.
Kidding, I have TSA Pre status.
Glad you survived the ordeal.
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Old 02-14-2017, 03:46 PM
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The President can override the Congress with the veto, Congress can overide a veto and the Supreme Court can overide both by ruling a law unconstitutional. In addition, the court can also overide the President by delaring his actions as unconstitutional and the President can overide the court by ignoring them - as happened with FDR with the internment of Japanese Amerians in WWII.

Bottom line is the legislature, court and executive are seperate and equal branches of govenment and your WaPo quote has Miller reaffiming this. And your intial sentence quoted does not say the President has absolute power, but I understand how those infected with Trumpenfuhrer fever might infer this.
here again is the most-noticed Steve Miller quote:

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The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.
Yes, it only says 'very substantial,' not 'supreme.' And they don't quite say that they intend to take action against questioning, that idea is just strongly implied. Strongly enough that it doesn't take a virus to catch it....
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here again is the most-noticed Steve Miller quote:



Yes, it only says 'very substantial,' not 'supreme.' And they don't quite say that they intend to take action against questioning, that idea is just strongly implied. Strongly enough that it doesn't take a virus to catch it....
The President does indeed have subtantial powers to protect the country, including being our military's supreme commander. Miller saying that it "will not be questioned" is political rhetoric. You don't actually think he isn't aware it would be?
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Old 02-14-2017, 07:26 PM
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The President does indeed have subtantial powers to protect the country, including being our military's supreme commander. Miller saying that it "will not be questioned" is political rhetoric. You don't actually think he isn't aware it would be?
I doubt he cares about the distinction, as long as it hits with the Trumpkin base. Alluson to Cartman on South Park also taken here.
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