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02-14-2017, 08:24 AM
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Do we have a dictator or a president? It's gotten a little fuzzy.......
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02-14-2017, 08:56 AM
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Do we have a dictator or a president? It's gotten a little fuzzy.......
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You are out of context, we are talking about a White House advisor, not the President.
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Huh? Dictators have advisors. The relations are some different, but there definitely are advisors. To the extent they are able to partake of the dictator's power, they are powerful men indeed.
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02-14-2017, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
You want folks to comment on a bunch of spliced together, out of context comments? You want to post a bunch of spliced together, out of context comments, by no less a left-tilting source than MSNBC? And then get folks to react to it?
Whatever....
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There is NOTHING out of context here. Miller was loud and clear, so............
Drop your evasive, apologist bullshit and explain to me how you can support these people. What is it about this sort of crap that appeals to you? That's what I want to know.
(Yeah, I know, I said I wasn't going to look at your sick thoughts.)
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02-14-2017, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
There is NOTHING out of context here. Miller was loud and clear, so............
Drop your evasive, apologist bullshit and explain to me how you can support these people. What is it about this sort of crap that appeals to you? That's what I want to know.
(Yeah, I know, I said I wasn't going to look at your sick thoughts.)
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BS. We went through this yesterday with a WaPo article that Bob posted.
The clips are out of context unless you can tell me:
- EXACTLY what questions were being responded to in the case of each individual clip, and;
- EXACTLY what was included / excluded from each clip from the complete response to each question.
Until then, I'll stick with my original response: Whatever....
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02-14-2017, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
BS. We went through this yesterday with a WaPo article that Bob posted.
The clips are out of context unless you can tell me:
- EXACTLY what questions were being responded to in the case of each individual clip, and;
- EXACTLY what was included / excluded from each clip from the complete response to each question.
Until then, I'll stick with my original response: Whatever....
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You seem to be simply deflecting all things Trump.
The whole world knows what he meant, that the President has absolute authority. Now you are parsing his intent. Getting a bit tiring.
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02-14-2017, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
He never said that, at least not in the context that you and these spliced-together video snippets are imputing. You discarded any remaining intellect you had a couple months ago, doorak.
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He most certainly did and I watched it real time with my own eyes. Unlike you, I'm not willing to prostrate myself before your Trumpenfuhrer.
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02-14-2017, 02:57 PM
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The President can override the Congress with the veto, Congress can overide a veto and the Supreme Court can overide both by ruling a law unconstitutional. In addition, the court can also overide the President by delaring his actions as unconstitutional and the President can overide the court by ignoring them - as happened with FDR with the internment of Japanese Amerians in WWII.
Bottom line is the legislature, court and executive are seperate and equal branches of govenment and your WaPo quote has Miller reaffiming this. And your intial sentence quoted does not say the President has absolute power, but I understand how those infected with Trumpenfuhrer fever might infer this.
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02-14-2017, 03:11 PM
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The President can override the Congress with the veto, Congress can overide a veto and the Supreme Court can overide both by ruling a law unconstitutional. In addition, the court can also overide the President by delaring his actions as unconstitutional and the President can overide the court by ignoring them - as happened with FDR with the internment of Japanese Amerians in WWII.
Bottom line, the legislature, court and executive are seperate and equal branches of govenment and your WaPo quote has Miller reaffiming this.
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Recheck your facts. In the case Korematsu v. United States, the 1944 Supreme Court upheld Roosevelt's executive order for internment of the Japanese Americans.
Worcester v. Georgia, which failed to stop the Cherokee removal, is a somewhat better example of the court not being able to assert power against the wishes of the executive, though it this case it must be noted that they chose not to even try much.
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02-14-2017, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Recheck your facts. In the case Korematsu v. United States, the 1944 Supreme Court upheld Roosevelt's executive order for internment of the Japanese Americans.
Worcester v. Georgia, which failed to stop the Cherokee removal, is a somewhat better example of the court not being able to assert power against the wishes of the executive, though it this case it must be noted that they chose not to even try much.
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After the court declared it unconstitutional and FDR ignoring them.
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