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Old 01-30-2017, 11:07 AM
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Nonsense. The independents may have voted for Trump but a lot of Democrats stayed home instead of voting. Hillary lost out on the black, Hispanic and the millennial voting blocks.
I don't think that explains Hillary's losses in the rust belt states.

This does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsPlwhahHAo
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:15 AM
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No they won't. They don't want to pay a dime more than the lowest price they can find.
Lot of truth in that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSu_nDjnak
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:19 AM
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I don't think that explains Hillary's losses in the rust belt states.

This does:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsPlwhahHAo
Sorry TJ, no Youtube. Perhaps you can provide me a link to a published report.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:39 AM
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Sorry TJ, no Youtube. Perhaps you can provide me a link to a published report.
Life without youtube is not worth living.

Without youtube, you might as well just turn your face to the wall and die.

That being said, I will honor your request.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...n_history.html

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MICHAEL MOORE: I know a lot of people in Michigan that are planning to vote for Trump and they don't necessarily like him that much, and they don't necessarily agree with him. They're not racist or rednecks, they're actually pretty decent people, and so after talking to a number of them I wanted to write this:

'Donald Trump came to the Detroit Economic Club and stood there in front of Ford Motor executives and said, "if you close these factories as you're planning to do in Detroit and build them in Mexico, I'm going to put a 35% tariff on those cars when you send them back and nobody's going to buy them."

It was an amazing thing to see. No politician, Republican or Democrat, had ever said anything like that to these executives, and it was music to the ears of people in Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin -- the "Brexit" states.

You live here in Ohio, you know what I'm talking about. Whether Trump means it or not, is kind of irrelevant because he's saying the things to people who are hurting, and that's why every beaten-down, nameless, forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle class loves Trump. He is the human molotov cocktail that they've been waiting for. The human hand grande that they can legally throw into the system that stole their lives from them.

And on November 8, Election Day, although they lost their jobs, although they've been foreclose on by the bank, and next came the divorce and now the wife and kids are gone, the car's been repoed, they haven't had a real vacation in years, they're stuck with the shitty Obamacare Bronze Plan where you can't even get a fucking percocet. They've essentially lost everything they had, except one thing -- the one thing that doesn't cost them a cent, and is guaranteed to them by the American constitution: the right to vote.

They might be penniless, they might be homeless, they might be fucked over and fucked up it doesn't matter, because it's equalized on that day - a millionaire has the same number of votes as the person without a job: one.

And there's more of the former middle class than there are in the millionaire class.

So on November 8, the dispossessed will walk into the voting booth, be handed a ballot, close the curtain, and take that lever or felt pen or touchscreen and put a big fucking X in the box by the name of the man who has threatened to upend and overturn the very system that has ruined their lives: Donald J. Trump.

They see that the elite who ruined their lives hate Trump. Corporate America hates Trump. Wall Street hates Trump. The career politicians hate Trump. The media hates Trump, after they loved him and created him, and now hate.

Thank you media: the enemy of my enemy is who I'm voting for on November 8.

Yes, on November 8, you Joe Blow, Steve Blow, Bob Blow, Billy Blow, all the Blows get to go and blow up the whole goddamn system because it's your right. Trump's election is going to be the biggest "Fuck You" ever recorded in human history and it will feel good.
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:23 PM
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Life without youtube is not worth living.

Without youtube, you might as well just turn your face to the wall and die.

That being said, I will honor your request.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...n_history.html
You Tube is a Google property and anything from Google is best avoided. Only Google app I use consistently is their mapping on my iPhone though I have GPS in may car. And thanks.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:19 PM
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You Tube is a Google property and anything from Google is best avoided.
Why?

I use youtube and google all the time and never had a problem.
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Old 01-30-2017, 01:22 PM
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Why?

I use youtube and google all the time and never had a problem.
They tract your activities and I prefer not to be tracked.
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Perhaps a bit hysterical, but worth reading.
http://pubx.co/xaWxJx
I think measured is the word, not hysterical at all.

"There is nothing great about the America that Trump thinks he is going to make; but in the end, it is the greatness of America that will stop him."

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Perhaps a bit hysterical, but worth reading.
http://pubx.co/xaWxJx
Geez ! WTF did Victor Orban do to this guy?

Victor Orban saved Frau Merkel from the extremes of her folly and he did not charge her one Euro.

Damn! Compared to what she had to pay and still is paying Erdogan.

Victor Orban is a European patriot who held the barbarians at the gate.
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