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Old 04-01-2016, 07:13 AM
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Erdogan wants to restore the Ottoman Empire, Shariah, Arabic and all. Everything he does must be viewed in that context so any hope of him doing anything to curb the flow of refugees to Europe is in vain, especially since they seem to all be bottled up in parts of Europe which used to be part of that empire.
Does he want Turkey to be great again as a secular empire or Caliphate?
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:24 AM
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Now Erdogan fucked up in Washington. His security tried to attack a critical journalist. They also attacked demonstrators.
Turkish security guards clashed with journalists outside a speech in Washington by the country’s president, damaging Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s efforts to improve his government’s image in the US. The security guards swore at and tried to prevent several journalists from entering the Brookings Institution, where Mr Erdogan had been scheduled to give a high-profile speech, according to eyewitnesses. Washington police were forced to intervene to prevent clashes between the Turkish security personnel and both reporters and anti-Erdogan protesters outside the event...

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Old 04-01-2016, 07:38 AM
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Erdogan is a reactionary. Probably he does not realize how much he is.
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:50 AM
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I'm sure TGWD finds much to admire here, as with the Russian tyrant.

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Turkish security guards clashed with journalists outside a speech in Washington by the country’s president, damaging Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s efforts to improve his government’s image in the US. The security guards swore at and tried to prevent several journalists from entering the Brookings Institution, where Mr Erdogan had been scheduled to give a high-profile speech, according to eyewitnesses. Washington police were forced to intervene to prevent clashes between the Turkish security personnel and both reporters and anti-Erdogan protesters outside the event...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1cf1479c-f...#axzz44ZqfDuSS
FT has a pay wall. Try this.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...n-dc-brookings
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:08 AM
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:58 AM
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Jan Böhmermann, a German satirist, triggered a serious political crisis between Turkey and Germany. Böhmermann, pretty "lennybruce-ish" - called Erdogan a "goatfucker" in a German tv show. Now the Turkish government vehemently insists on a prosecution. In my opinion "goatfucker" is just a primitive offense without statirical character, but nobody around here in my nonvirtual world is interested in my opinion. I do not like his brutal sense of humour, but amongst the young people he is extremely popular.

However - the German government has now to decide if they permit a prosecution. A tricky situation, because Merkel needs Erdogan's affection in order to carry out her dirty migrant deals with Turkey.
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And what does Edrogan want to do to this German citizen if they convict him?
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:08 PM
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Well - insulting of a foreign head of state means three years in prison according to our criminal law. Erdogan wants satisfaction. But when Merkel decides pro Erdogan, she will risk her political future - she would hardly be able to win the election next year. Böhmermann is a Superstar amongst the young German intellectuals.

(Check also Wikipedia on this issue.)
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