Jesus - Page 2

BigElCat · #1 07-11-2020, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980

Matthew 7:16, "By their fruits----".
If it wasn't for living examples like Jimmy Carter, the elevation of a vicious troll to the presidency would move me that the whole thing is self-serving bullshit.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-lost/613999/y

Trump being President is further proof to you that God does not exist.

OK

God, as I understand him, does not rule this world.

Jimmy would have won re-election in 1980, if the hostages had been released. Remember our anticipation in the media ? The release had been negotiated by Jimmy's State Department, they were coming home any day.

Any day now. Three months passed.

Because CIA director George H W Bush had under-cut the State Department, negotiated a delay. People say this is a conspiracy theory, and you have to research it deep. About nine credible people say it happened.

And the Neo-Cons were born.

donquixote99 · #2 07-11-2020, 08:17 AM

What I meant by 'closed-minded special pleading' is advocacy of a position to which one is committed before any argument and regardless of it.

BigElCat · #3 07-11-2020, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99

What I meant by 'closed-minded special pleading' is advocacy of a position to which one is committed before any argument and regardless of it.

Oh, that's very different then.

You think you have an open mind, like the enlightenment of Budda?

Have you 'sat Zen' ?

donquixote99 · #4 07-11-2020, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat

Oh, that's very different then.

You think you have an open mind, like the enlightenment of Budda?

Have you 'sat Zen' ?

No and no.

Do you believe that compromising your beliefs would put you more at risk of eternal damnation?

BigElCat · #5 07-11-2020, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99

No and no.

Do you believe that compromising your beliefs would put you more at risk of eternal damnation?

There is only one transgression against God that would seal my fate and condemn me to Hell.

That transgression is 'blasphemy of, or against, the Holy Spirit'.

donquixote99 · #6 07-11-2020, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat

There is only one transgression against God that would seal my fate and condemn me to Hell.

That transgression is 'blasphemy of, or against, the Holy Spirit'.

What is 'blasphemy of, or against, the Holy Spirit?' Such a deadly sin should be simply understandable.

Not Insane · #7 07-11-2020, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat

There is only one transgression against God that would seal my fate and condemn me to Hell.

That transgression is 'blasphemy of, or against, the Holy Spirit'.

Yep. And I think it is because you seal your own fate. Once you throw him out, you have doomed yourself to a world of unbelief. It's similar to taking that one hit of crack. As one addict told me, once you take the one, you are hooked for life, no matter how much you take afterward.

And the great temptation that tempts us all is the belief that how good we are actually matters to God, regarding salvation from death. What matters is belief. And you can tell what a person believes by what they do.

BigElCat · #8 07-11-2020, 09:36 AM

There was never supposed to be a religion worshiping Christ.

The disciples were supposed to spread the good news.

No church buildings, no communion, no statues.

Not Insane · #9 07-11-2020, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigElCat

There was never supposed to be a religion worshiping Christ.

The disciples were supposed to spread the good news.

No church buildings, no communion, no statues.

Agree. Religion is man made. Christianity is something else. But even then, the bible describes true religion: "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." James 1:27

Not Insane · #10 07-11-2020, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by watsup1000

Again, I can't find his posts among all the mishmash of hundreds, but Insane recently talked about "when Jesus comes back".
Here's a hint: he ain't comin' back. Every generation of Christians for 2000 years thought that they were living in "end times". Not gonna happen. It's a myth. If you are a devout Christian, so unlike your great leader Trump, then enjoy that culture of kindness and devote more time to social justice rather than to ranting about abortion and gays. I am paraphrasing Pope Francis here.

In the meantime, Humanism has the answers.

Opinions vary. Thanks so much for sharing yours!

BTW, your post shows an utter ignorance on the whole issue. I don't know where you got that end times meme from or what that has to do with anything here. Nobody knows when he's returning.

And not to put too fine a point on it, but he satisfied over 300 prophesies and yet not a single person on the entire planet knew who he was. This includes those that walked with him and received direct teaching from him for over three years.

They all got it wrong - until AFTER his death and resurrection.

And this is how he will return. We are told to watch and recognize the signs, but nobody will know the day UNTIL it actually comes. Then it will be obvious to those that had been paying attention.

It's right there in the bible. But as nice as the bible is, what matters is a personal relationship with Him. That is where it really happens.