France to deliver warship to Russia despite MH17

[Dondilion]

Despite serious pressure from Obama and Cameron of Britain, France will deliver the first of the warships it built for Russia.

The US admin shot its itself in the leg with the huge fine it recently levied on the French bank BNP and when Cameron speaks one isn't certain if he is speaking for the angry Russian oligarchs exiles in Britain or the British government.

http://www.businessinsider.com/franc...-allies-2014-7

[nailer]

There is a lot of land between Putin and France.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by nailer

There is a lot of land between Putin and France.

Well that is not the point. The US is trying to organize its European allies against Putin. At the same it recently fined the French bank 8 billion dollars.
That is not how you influence people and friends.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/30/inve...anctions-fine/

[nailer]

Regardless of the bank fine that ship would still be headed to Russia.

On the surface this current bout of economic saber rattling is about countering Russian expansion that isn't threatening the French border.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by nailer

Regardless of the bank fine that ship would still be headed to Russia.

On the surface this current bout of economic saber rattling is about countering Russian expansion which in no way threatens the French border.

The French and Germans understand that the present animus against Putin by the US and Britain is more that Russian expansionism...it is about who control the spoils of the post soviet countries.

Soros and his clique were dominant in Yeltsin Russia and Putin double crossed and kicked them out.

Soros who has powerfully friends in the Obama admin and is determine to sieze Ukraine. Right now Ukraine is a fieldom run by powerful oligarchs including the present leader, the chocolate king. He is very smart and had
his foot in many different Ukrainian and Russian groups.

He smells where this is leading and will survive the determine push of Soros to take over Ukraine. When Nuland says "Fuck the Europeans" that is
Soros speaking.

Anyhow some of the other Ukrainian Oligarchs will not survive Soros coup d'etat.

Two very smart Ukrainian oligarchs Kolomoyskyi and Rabinovich founded the European Jewish Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Union

Ihor Kolomoyskyi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi

[Pio1980]

So it's a 3 way quarrel with the chocolate king, Putin, and Soros with the US gvmt holding his coat?

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[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

So it's a 3 way quarrel with the chocolate king, Putin, and Soros with the US gvmt holding his coat?

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No the the chocolate king has joined Soros whom he sense is the long term
winner. Notice Soros is so confident he has Biden's son on the ground running.

[piece-itpete]

That may be partially correct, but I'd rather live under the EU/USA type government than the RF.

Pete

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

That may be partially correct, but I'd rather live under the EU/USA type government than the RF.

Pete

Agreed.

However I am just trying to clear some of the fog.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

That may be partially correct, but I'd rather live under the EU/USA type government than the RF.

Pete

No question about it. The former Soviet satellites; the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and Poland; are all far better off outside of Russia's realm. Same goes for the Baltic states. Russia is really not that far removed from being a Third World country, albeit with a First World army.