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Old 08-14-2012, 01:43 PM
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What are you talking about with altruism? You lost me.
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:45 PM
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Sorry, my shpeelleeng needs help.

Call it anything that isn't either profit or power motivated.

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Old 08-14-2012, 01:47 PM
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I'm still lost.

Are you referring to my comment that I think Steve Jobs loved art first and money second?
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:51 PM
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Neither are millions of others. I am simply pointing out that the profit motive has given us the wonders of our daily lives.

I'm not fond of government social engineering

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As long as there is government there is social engineering the alternative ia anarchy. Who the beneficiaries of such engineering are varies by party.
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:53 PM
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eb, no. Btw I mentioned Jobs out of hand, I'm not particularly fond or not fond of him. Gates too.

And Edison. Rockefeller? Carnegie. Thousands of guys that kept it up past a modest bank account, have done a great deal of good. While some folks have done great things for their love of craft, or science, or humanity, boatloads of stuff came from rich guys

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Old 08-14-2012, 01:55 PM
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Sorry, my shpeelleeng needs help.

Call it anything that isn't either profit or power motivated.

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Pete I have never done anything in my life that was not for profit, it depends upon how you define profit.
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Old 08-14-2012, 01:59 PM
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No. Btw I mentioned Jobs out of hand, I'm not particularly fond or not fond of him. Gates too.

And Edison. Rockefeller? Carnegie. Thousands of guys that kept it up past a modest bank account, have done a great deal of good. While some folks have done great things for their love of craft, or science, or humanity, boatloads of stuff came from rich guys

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I understand that too, but that's for another thread. A lot of those guys got forced into giving money either by social pressure or legislative action. It's not they sat on the Lusitania dreaming about bringing European opera houses to the ghettos.

In any event my hope in this thread was to take the discussion of the progressive income tax beyond the politicians' rhetoric. They will say the purpose is to steal from the rich and give to the poor. Or to pay back for the structure that enabled them to get rich.

Now we know there is more to the story.
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Ah so

Rob I understand the profit thing and agree there's other things besides money

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