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Old 07-18-2018, 12:02 PM
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What I think was going on at Trump Tower.

1. Russians invite Trump campaign to meeting with promise of illegal aid against Hillary.
2. Trump's people accept. But no aid is offered, because the Russians fear a sting, and the meeting is a test.
3. Trump's people pass test. More covert cooperation ensues.
Consistent with above is this bit from current Atlantic article.

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Former spies told me last year that the meeting looked like a textbook intelligence operation aimed at gauging the Trump campaign’s interest in colluding with Moscow to undermine Clinton in exchange for lifting sanctions—a priority for Russia that former National-Security Adviser Michael Flynn discussed with former Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak in December 2016.
Main point of article is Putin's telling press conference reference to matters connected to the Trump Tower meeting.
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Old 06-10-2018, 05:04 PM
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A man who is a wonderful husband and father, except when beats his wife now and then, is an 'enemy' one might say. A hostile act is not cancelled by any number of non-hostile ones.
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Old 06-10-2018, 05:11 PM
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Friends commit hostile acts which doesn't keep them from being friends. However we're talking about nations, not individuals.
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Old 06-10-2018, 05:21 PM
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I'm not sure that word 'friend' means what you think it means.

We are talking about covert hostility between nations. No overt break in relations, but the 'attack' occurs nonetheless. If nation A covertly assassinates the head-of-state of nation B, that would still be an act of war by traditional stanbards, even though normal relations continue unless and until the attack is detected and proved....
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Old 06-10-2018, 05:32 PM
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Why did you use a husband and wife as an example if where talking about nations? The exact point I made in my previous post which you remade in your following post.

So you're equating what the indicted Russians did to assassinating President Obama.

Enjoyed your typical not so subtle personal attack regarding friends. You've never had a fight with a friend and remained friends?
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Old 06-10-2018, 05:46 PM
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I'd say it wasn't so much a personal attack as a joke with a bit of a point on it. I'd be glad you enjoyed it if you did, but I feel you didn't.

Rest of message is typical nailerism.
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Old 06-10-2018, 10:27 PM
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Nice double down, Snidely.

And thanks for acknowledging that your points couldn't hold water.
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:25 PM
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There’s actually lots of evidence of Trump-Russia collusion

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/174383...ssia-collusion
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Old 06-11-2018, 01:48 PM
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There’s actually lots of evidence of Trump-Russia collusion

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/174383...ssia-collusion
A weak "headline" article...a play on grounds for suspicion.
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Old 06-11-2018, 07:25 PM
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A weak "headline" article...a play on grounds for suspicion.
An accurate take.
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