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Old 10-18-2014, 02:29 PM
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It - access to water - is basically a technological challenge which I believe is not huge.
It's being done by many of us throughout the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUnQ4GeUZUA
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Old 10-18-2014, 03:40 PM
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It - access to water - is basically a technological challenge which I believe is not huge.
The solutions I know about:

1) Move surface water from somewhere else to where it's needed. Liable to be expensive, and the surface water is mostly 'spoken for.'

2) Mine fossil water from deep aquifers. Fine until they run out.

3) Desalinate ocean water. Need plenty of energy.

I don't think a technological magic wand solves this problem.
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Old 10-18-2014, 03:41 PM
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It's being done by many of us throughout the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUnQ4GeUZUA

Dozens and dozens, I'll bet. Got anyone in production on a commercial scale and turning a profit?
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Old 10-18-2014, 04:38 PM
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It - access to water - is basically a technological challenge which I believe is not huge.
Tell that to people in LA, or those near what is left of the Aral Sea. Once the supply starts to diminish, it takes little time til it is gone. Witness the mighty Colorado as it roars into Mexico these days.
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Old 10-18-2014, 04:52 PM
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But the empty space is mostly poorly watered. Without water, land is so useless it might as well not exist. Really, it's just an obstacle that must be traversed to get to water.
Or a place for crazy ultra marathoners to get their kicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3mcZxi-r9U
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Old 10-18-2014, 06:50 PM
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Dozens and dozens, I'll bet. Got anyone in production on a commercial scale and turning a profit?
I'm not aware of any under the extreme conditions as in the link, but there are many using the same Permaculture technics. Mark Shepard's operation runs without additional inputs.
http://www.forestag.com/bio.html
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Old 10-18-2014, 06:52 PM
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Tell that to people in LA, or those near what is left of the Aral Sea. Once the supply starts to diminish, it takes little time til it is gone. Witness the mighty Colorado as it roars into Mexico these days.
Poor agriculture technics & just a lack of understanding & will to correct the problem.
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:30 PM
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Poor agriculture technics & just a lack of understanding & will to correct the problem.
Damn, DJ. You sound like a Democrat.
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:46 PM
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Damn, DJ. You sound like a Democrat.
Democrats & Republicans know nothing about the subject.
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Old 10-18-2014, 07:51 PM
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Democrats know nothing about the subject.
Yet we lefty Californians just voted to spend$7bn to upgrade our storage system here and to regulate aquifer depletion throughout the state.
Red state Arizona? Not so much.
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