Humanism has the Answer

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Actually, the Christian message is not fear of retribution and reckoning, though some would have you believe that. It is quite the opposite. It is your second paragraph. It is even part of the Christian message that that "sense" is in all of us.

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I have sat thru more many sermons and masses over the years. So do not tell me what I heard preached.
Then for many years went to car shows where "Christian Car Guys" were in attendance. Hearing all the stories about the car "deal" (steal) talk. Hearing the stories in church services from the same people about family members who passed on burning in hell because of not being "saved"!!!
Accompanying crocodile tears of course!

Even had to explain to some kids camping once after another camper said with vinegar and hate, "your going to burn in hell" because they were Catholic! Told you're not Christians!
Ask yourself where did the little one get such ideas?
Even had to explain to parents when they came to pick up the kids.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Oerets

I have sat thru more many sermons and masses over the years. So do not tell me what I heard preached.
Then for many years went to car shows where "Christian Car Guys" were in attendance. Hearing all the stories about the car "deal" (steal) talk. Hearing the stories in church services from the same people about family members who passed on burning in hell because of not being "saved"!!!
Accompanying crocodile tears of course!

Even had to explain to some kids camping once after another camper said with vinegar and hate, "your going to burn in hell" because they were Catholic! Told you're not Christians!
Ask yourself where did the little one get such ideas?
Even had to explain to parents when they came to pick up the kids.

So now you have a taste for what I'm up against.