18 and Dead.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

That said...I'm white so in the couple of cases where I took a beating, that was as far as it went.

And therein lies the rub, as you Shakespearean Scholars like to say.

I actually got stopped just the other day for making an illegal turn.

That's not that hard to do here in Mobile Alabama.

They have the most fucked up frontage road design in the world.

I'm retired FDOT and I can tell you that our traffic ops people would laugh their asses off if they could see it.

I was tempted to tell the Cop that, but instead I was just ultra respectful and got off with a warning.

Us 67 year old Graybeard's can generally pull that off.

But I can tell you this. If I had been born black I would be dead or in prison right now. There is no way I would put up with the shit they hae to take from Cops.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

One night, I was about 16, a bunch of us were hanging out at the park and I made the mistake of getting pissed off and responding to a strong "go the fuck home kid" with an idiotic "I'll think about it." I ended up on my face in the street with a knee in my back and a knee on the back of my head. And when I got to the lock-up they almost knocked me out pitching me into an interview room and bouncing me off the back wall.

So you were always a little punk trouble maker huh?

It's not just here on the internet.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Again, you're missing the point.

Regardless of what precipitated anything in this case, pressing the attack against an entity who has retreated into an area of presumed safety universally recognized as theirs gets you shot. (i.e., if Trayvon had followed Zims into has house and gets wacked? That's on him regardless of what occurred, before.) The engagement occurred in a police cruiser. Are you trying to justify that?

Your Israel comparison is weak on two fronts:

1. Israel is the aggressor, not a victim.
2. Israel is FAR from universally recognized as rightfully possessing anything.

Wow I was with you up till this point. I guess American Indians are FAR from rightfully possessing anything with your logic.

[4-2-7]

Or African Americans

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

So you were always a little punk trouble maker huh?

It's not just here on the internet.

What of it, eh pissant?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

What of it, eh pissant?

I'm a nice guy in person.

I get rid of all my hostility by being an asshole on the internet.

[bobabode]

Looks like the FBI is getting involved.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...ry.html#page=1

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Looks like the FBI is getting involved.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...ry.html#page=1

I can understand this guys point of view.

It's similar to mine.

Derek Laney, 49, traveled from nearby St. Louis to demonstrate, saying the death of young black men was an epidemic. Whatever Brown did, he said, was “not punishable by execution in the streets,” and he somewhat defended the melee that broke store windows.

“People are angry, people are hurt, people are fed up. You have to direct it somewhere — and you can't direct it at the people who made you angry because they'll shoot you and kill you,” Laney said. “So they express it outward... I wouldn't go out and smash things, I wouldn't go out and burn things. But I understand why people do it.”

[bobabode]

Another smart young man here.

"One younger man took a bullhorn and pleaded for the demonstrators to avoid arrests so they could attend more protests. “This is our time!” the young man shouted into the bullhorn. “Our grandparents and parents were attacked by [police] dogs, fire hoses. This is our time to do it the way they did it — nonviolently!”" LATimes

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Another smart young man here.

"One younger man took a bullhorn and pleaded for the demonstrators to avoid arrests so they could attend more protests. “This is our time!” the young man shouted into the bullhorn. “Our grandparents and parents were attacked by [police] dogs, fire hoses. This is our time to do it the way they did it — nonviolently!”" LATimes

He has a place.

You need good guys and bad guys, just like the game the Cops play.

This kid can be the MLK good guy.

But there also needs to be a Stokley Carmichael out there to put the fear of God into whitey.