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Old 02-20-2018, 07:42 AM
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I gave a proposal in post #99.
No, you didn't. For the 3rd time, no one can seriously suggest that passing a gun control law would have prevented what happened in FL. Further, and more to the point, the question was - what would prevent something from happening tomorrow? Your proposal would require the passage of legislation which is a process measured in months or years (particularly with the dysfunctional environment in DC).
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Old 02-20-2018, 07:48 AM
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No, you didn't. For the 3rd time, no one can seriously suggest that passing a gun control law would have prevented what happened in FL. Further, and more to the point, the question was - what would prevent something from happening tomorrow? Your proposal would require the passage of legislation which is a process measured in months or years (particularly with the dysfunctional environment in DC).
I still don't understand your point, other than to demonstrate your own nihilism, ignorance and moral bankruptcy. As best as I can ascertain, it seems you're arguing that gun control laws don't work, a completely false premise. Look at the UK and Australia.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:01 AM
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I still don't understand your point, other than to demonstrate your own nihilism, ignorance and moral bankruptcy. As best as I can ascertain, it seems you're arguing that gun control laws don't work, a completely false premise. Look at the UK and Australia.
Look at Connecticut, a state that had a pretty strong set of gun control laws in 2012, yet the Sandy Hook shooting still happened. EDIT - they passed even stricter legislation after Sandy Hook, yet CT still ranks pretty high in gun deaths per capita.

Yeah, comprehension has never been your strong point. Not sure how to state this question more simply for you, unless maybe I write it in Crayon. So, one last time:

What would prevent something from happening tomorrow? I'm talking about taking steps to prevent something from happening tomorrow. Meaning preventative steps that can be put in place as soon as February 21, 2018. That disqualifies the discussion of gun control legislation because such legislation could not be passed in time to be effective tomorrow.

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Old 02-20-2018, 08:17 AM
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Look at Connecticut, a state that had a pretty strong set of gun control laws in 2012, yet the Sandy Hook shooting still happened. EDIT - they passed even stricter legislation after Sandy Hook, yet CT still ranks pretty high in gun deaths per capita.

Yeah, comprehension has never been your strong point. Not sure how to state this question more simply for you, unless maybe I write it in Crayon. So, one last time:

What would prevent something from happening tomorrow? I'm talking about taking steps to prevent something from happening tomorrow. Meaning preventative steps that can be put in place as soon as February 21, 2018. That disqualifies the discussion of gun control legislation because such legislation could not be passed in time to be effective tomorrow.
Nihilistic drivel.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:52 AM
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Look at Connecticut, a state that had a pretty strong set of gun control laws in 2012, yet the Sandy Hook shooting still happened. EDIT - they passed even stricter legislation after Sandy Hook, yet CT still ranks pretty high in gun deaths per capita.
In fact, they rank among the lowest per capita. But then, you never let facts get in the way of your dogma. Typical Trumpie.

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Old 02-20-2018, 09:09 AM
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Dealing with this in an effective civilized manner is a long term solution. There is no instant solution, including militarizing "soft target" sites.
As long as we maintain an irrational unjustified state of universal unlimited entitlement to weapons of mass casualties, this will continue and escalate. It's past time to compromise a balance between responsible firearm custodianship and civilisation.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:12 AM
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We need to change the culture. Just like we did with cigarettes.
Not that we have to ban all guns...., but we need sensible and reasonable gun laws.
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:20 AM
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We need to change the culture. Just like we did with cigarettes.
Not that we have to ban all guns...., but we need sensible and reasonable gun laws.
Changing the culture is a multi-year, maybe multi-generational slog. How do we keep our kids safe at school against a shooter that might show up tomorrow?
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Changing the culture is a multi-year, maybe multi-generational slog. How do we keep our kids safe at school against a shooter that might show up tomorrow?
What's your answer?
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Old 02-20-2018, 09:24 AM
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Dealing with this in an effective civilized manner is a long term solution. There is no instant solution, including militarizing "soft target" sites.
Its not "militarizing", but your close. And to dismiss the idea of hardening the target out of hand dispenses with a realistic solution that can keep our kids safe much sooner. Frankly, I hate even having to talk about it, but I'd rather take control of the situation now rather than wait for politicians to take forever to pass half-baked an ineffective measures.
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