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Old 12-03-2010, 08:03 AM
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You asked a lot of questions, but I did notice something I was thinking about the other day and perhaps should be a separate thread.

What would happen if a company had a giant factory, but no road? What if there were bad guys outside, but no policemen handy? What if the kernel of research and development wasn't happening in academia? On and on.

Well, they would build roads, hire and develop a security force and hire researchers. It's f'in AMAZING, isn't it ?????

By the way, I'll bet they might build infirmaries and childcare centers and cafeterias if those weren't nearby too.

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Old 12-03-2010, 08:09 AM
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see we agree!

Big business will do anything to profit a second time on their own.
They did do that, they were called Company Towns, we had a few here in Maryland of dubious reputation. One of the four towns where I grew up was a company town. Interesting struucture, if the works manager drove a Buick, then tha assistant manager had to go one brand below, and so on down the line. Depending on your pay grade you just hoped you company house was within walking distance.

Ah the "good old days" - they sucked.
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:14 AM
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What would happen if a company had a giant factory, but no road? What if there were bad guys outside, but no policemen handy? What if the kernel of research and development wasn't happening in academia? On and on.

Well, they would build roads, hire and develop a security force and hire researchers. It's f'in AMAZING, isn't it ?????
... they'd build roads right up to their property line. And then what?

And what would their rent-a-cops do if someone stole their intellectual property or infiltrated their network or hijacked their trucks outside of the plant perimeter? Hire Barney Fife as a security consultant?

Hire researchers? From the same halls of academia that knew nothing about their area of interest? Good luck with that.

Methinks your version of utopia looks like my version of dystopia.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:19 AM
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Methinks your version of utopia looks like my version of dystopia.
that's a big affirmative
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:30 AM
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They did do that, they were called Company Towns, we had a few here in Maryland of dubious reputation. One of the four towns where I grew up was a company town. Interesting struucture, if the works manager drove a Buick, then tha assistant manager had to go one brand below, and so on down the line. Depending on your pay grade you just hoped you company house was within walking distance.

Ah the "good old days" - they sucked.

Beautifully stated, Rob.

Let's see; We don't want the government controlling every aspect of our lives, (And understandably so). But it's perfectly fine if our employers and the corporate world should come to control every aspect of our lives.................WTF?

Mossbacked;
Open a history book. We've already been to this world you describe. It was shit. People rebelled against it. They hated it. It was miserable. There were strikes, riots and decades of social unrest. What? You want to go through it again?

I swear.

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Old 12-03-2010, 09:36 AM
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Mossbacked;
Open a history book. We've already been to this world you describe. It was shit. People rebelled against it. They hated it. It was miserable. There were strikes, riots and decades of social unrest. What? You want to go through it again?
It still exists in West Virginia. Read a bit about Massey Energy and Don Blankenship. They should bury that prick under the jail.
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Old 12-03-2010, 10:21 AM
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It still exists in West Virginia. Read a bit about Massey Energy and Don Blankenship. They should bury that prick under the jail.
There is more than one reason why I love Uncle Tupelo's work. This one is for your listening pleasure - from a great album by the way.

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Old 12-03-2010, 10:32 AM
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There is more than one reason why I love Uncle Tupelo's work. This one is for your listening pleasure - from a great album by the way.

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Good stuff, Don.
Here's another great one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyPTIOJuWws

Here's an interesting article on Blankenship and Massey.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/236336
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Old 12-03-2010, 10:34 AM
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There is more than one reason why I love Uncle Tupelo's work. This one is for your listening pleasure - from a great album by the way.

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which album is this on?
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Old 12-03-2010, 10:55 AM
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which album is this on?
The name of the album is "March 16-20, 1992." Jay Farrar clearly dominates this one, and some of it sounds like Son Volt. It's kind of funny to hear Farrar singing about labor strife and atomic power and Jeff Tweedy singing love songs.

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