Leading Candidates for House Energy & Commerce Committee Chair

[finnbow]

In his quest to become the Energy and Commerce Chair, Joe Barton (R-Texas) compared himself to Gen. George Patton:

Rep. Joe L. Barton (R-Tex.), who is seeking the Energy and Commerce gavel, went with a war theme, comparing GOP leaders to the Dwight Eisenhower-led Army of World War II. In his reenactment, Barton assigned himself the role of Gen. George Patton: "Put anything in my scope and I will shoot it," he declared. *

* http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...113006958.html

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by finnbow

In his quest to become the Energy and Commerce Chair, Joe Barton (R-Texas) compared himself to Gen. George Patton:

Rep. Joe L. Barton (R-Tex.), who is seeking the Energy and Commerce gavel, went with a war theme, comparing GOP leaders to the Dwight Eisenhower-led Army of World War II. In his reenactment, Barton assigned himself the role of Gen. George Patton: "Put anything in my scope and I will shoot it," he declared. *

* http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...113006958.html

Somebody give the man a mirror.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Somebody give the man a mirror.

if they want to limit government so bad why not step down?

[mossbacked]

Originally Posted by noonereal

you sound "spooked".

Nope. Actually what's going on is quite healthy. If McCain had won we would not be talking as earnestly about progressivism/socialism versus conservativism/capitalism as we are now. And it is a fact there are more conservatives in America than otherwise, so spooked, no.

I am concerned that both nationally and interantionally we will probably see an absolute shitstorm of bad econimics, armed conflicts, civil unrest and terror that could last for a decade. I'm optimistic that things will shake out somewhere during that time period to where we are headed back toward a Kennedy-era type environment.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by mossbacked

Nope. Actually what's going on is quite healthy. .

Healthy????? How can we elect a new President and before he even takes office plan to have him fail even at the cost of war and economic collapse?

This is unprecedented and most definitely unhealthy.

Look at your post, you use the term "central planning" simply to cause needless concern. It seems to me action such at these especially by the media is very anti American and very unhealthy for the country.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by mossbacked

Yes, but let's be certain you are not advocating "central planning".

Stupid idea and I sincerely doubt you will find any on the left suggesting we do that. That said we simply cannot let business ride roughshod over everyone.

I presume that you accept traffic laws and rules, why should XYZ LLC be exempt from any rules?

[mossbacked]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Stupid idea and I sincerely doubt you will find any on the left suggesting we do that. That said we simply cannot let business ride roughshod over everyone.

I presume that you accept traffic laws and rules, why should XYZ LLC be exempt from any rules?

Correct, I am not an anarchist. What I don't want, however is a system where politicians craft programs that give individuals dollars so they vote for them.

If there is what a progressive might call an "error" in the way the distribution system works itself out, I want corporations to get those dollars. They will do a better job of job creation, and the recipients will actually have to WORK for the benefit of a check rather than sit around and figure out more ways to organize and get more freebies.

I would rather have corruption in the free market that at least creates wealth rather than corruption in the government that only takes wealth.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by mossbacked

Correct, I am not an anarchist. What I don't want, however is a system where politicians craft programs that give individuals dollars so they vote for them.

If there is what a progressive might call an "error" in the way the distribution system works itself out, I want corporations to get those dollars. They will do a better job of job creation, and the recipients will actually have to WORK for the benefit of a check rather than sit around and figure out more ways to organize and get more freebies.

I would rather have corruption in the free market that at least creates wealth rather than corruption in the government that only takes wealth.

Where did you get that negative opinion of your fellow citizens? It is extremely antiquated. You appear to be engaging in your own class warfare.

History is replete with the illegitimate practices of corporations, sweat shops, pollution, violence against workers, purchase of politicians, etc. Nowadays, if they get any more money, they will just take it offshore, without creating any jobs in the homeland.

Many of the proposals that have been set forth for government funds include increasing educational opportunities (i.e., preparing students to compete in the new economy), rebuilding the infrastructure, including thousands and thousands of unsafe bridges; providing research and underwriting for environmentally sound technology; oh, and paying off the debt. How much are the corporations going to voluntarily invest in the public infrastructure, in education, and in R&D? Unless it shows a short term profit, forget it.

Regards,

D-Ray

[mossbacked]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Where did you get that negative opinion of your fellow citizens? It is extremely antiquated. You appear to be engaging in your own class warfare.

History is replete with the illegitimate practices of corporations, sweat shops, pollution, violence against workers, purchase of politicians, etc. Nowadays, if they get any more money, they will just take it offshore, without creating any jobs in the homeland.

Many of the proposals that have been set forth for government funds include increasing educational opportunities (i.e., preparing students to compete in the new economy), rebuilding the infrastructure, including thousands and thousands of unsafe bridges; providing research and underwriting for environmentally sound technology; oh, and paying off the debt. How much are the corporations going to voluntarily invest in the public infrastructure, in education, and in R&D? Unless it shows a short term profit, forget it.

Regards,

D-Ray

You asked a lot of questions, but I did notice something I was thinking about the other day and perhaps should be a separate thread.

What would happen if a company had a giant factory, but no road? What if there were bad guys outside, but no policemen handy? What if the kernel of research and development wasn't happening in academia? On and on.

Well, they would build roads, hire and develop a security force and hire researchers. It's f'in AMAZING, isn't it ?????

By the way, I'll bet they might build infirmaries and childcare centers and cafeterias if those weren't nearby too.

Regards,
Moss

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by mossbacked

By the way, I'll bet they might build infirmaries and childcare centers and cafeterias if those weren't nearby too.

Regards,
Moss

see we agree!

Big business will do anything to profit a second time on their own.