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Old 02-08-2014, 01:27 PM
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In 2011, the GAO reported that impropper payments in the Medicare system totaled nearly $50 billion, which were about 9% of Medicare's total payments that year. You're right. I don't understand mismanagement on that scale.
Government mismanagement and waste can be addressed over time, but middlemen? They need to be eliminated since they do not add value, at least in the case of healthcare.
You don't see sales people walking around in grocery stores.
Healthcare like groceries is a need based commodity.
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:37 PM
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In 2011, the GAO reported that impropper payments in the Medicare system totaled nearly $50 billion, which were about 9% of Medicare's total payments that year. You're right. I don't understand mismanagement on that scale.
And what is the comparable number in the entire health care industry? Context please.

Much of this number was for "medically unnecessary services." This problem is by no means unique to Medicare. It's the defining feature of all fee-for-service programs and a primary reason for the exorbitant costs of health care in this country.
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:53 PM
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Government mismanagement and waste can be addressed over time, but middlemen? They need to be eliminated since they do not add value, at least in the case of healthcare.
You don't see sales people walking around in grocery stores.
Healthcare like groceries is a need based commodity.
LMAO

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So when are we going to address the wast in these programs?

Eliminate the middleman? The government is the middleman. So are you trying to fix the problem with the problem.
So your premise is they need to be eliminated because they don't add value. Agreed
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:54 PM
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Government mismanagement and waste can be addressed over time, but middlemen? They need to be eliminated since they do not add value, at least in the case of healthcare.
You don't see sales people walking around in grocery stores.
Healthcare like groceries is a need based commodity.
But Rajoo America is the nation of the middleman, and they all have their hands out.
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:57 PM
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But Rajoo America is the nation of the middleman, and they all have their hands out.
Correct The government is non stop with their hands out.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:00 PM
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What is this "we" crap? You have a mouse in your pocket?
Start a thread and find out if any one wants to crap on it.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:02 PM
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Correct The government is non stop with their hands out.
In the (approximate) words of P.J. O'Rourke, "Republicans run on how corrupt and inefficient the government is, then get elected and prove it.'
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:11 PM
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In the (approximate) words of P.J. O'Rourke, "Republicans run on how corrupt and inefficient the government is, then get elected and prove it.'
All parties do that, they're all one in the same. There goal is to bleed you dry like a leach. More programs and laws enacted every year,more government needed, the more there hand is out for your earnings.

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Old 02-08-2014, 02:14 PM
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In the (approximate) words of P.J. O'Rourke, "Republicans run on how corrupt and inefficient the government is, then get elected and prove it.'
BAM
The quote is a great retort.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:17 PM
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But Rajoo America is the nation of the middleman, and they all have their hands out.
Yes, and the middlemen only jump as high as you can roll. If you check out the premiums we have to pay for healthcare, it is easy to understand. Small business is probably subsidizing healthcare for large corporations like food stamps for Wally.
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