A Reason for A War

[one1]

What in your opinion was a true reason for a war and why,the majority of wars ever fought were were about increasings ones wealth and real estate size.was ther ever a honorable war?

[merrylander]

If the one whose real estate is being coveted fights back and wins that could be considered necessary if not honorable.

[one1]

Originally Posted by merrylander

If the one whose real estate is being coveted fights back and wins that could be considered necessary if not honorable.

Would Vietnam qualify under that,I have always been confused as to the reason for Vietnam was it a contiuation of the french campain ,to stop the sped of the dredded communist influence or what any one know more about it.

[merrylander]

Vietnam was AFAIK a French colony and Ho Chi Min was mostly tryiing to kick the French out, communism was more of a sideline.

[one1]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Vietnam was AFAIK a French colony and Ho Chi Min was mostly tryiing to kick the French out, communism was more of a sideline.

And the Galant America Involvement,came from...

[icenine]

I would say fighting to end slavery here in the States and fighting to end fascism
and genocide in World War II were legitimate uses of the war powers by our Presidents at the time.

Vietnam was an attempt by a Democratic administration to roll back communism within the paradigm of containment that was followed by both of our parties. The mistake we made was actually believing we could defeat a nationalist movement by a nation fighting on their own soil.

Read the Best and the Brightest by David Halberstam
Read Fire In The Lake by Frances Fitzgerald

and you will understand Vietnam

and read Graham Greene's eerily prophetic The Quiet American and you will see the faulty philosophy behind our involvement.

[one1]

Originally Posted by icenine

I would say fighting to end slavery here in the States and fighting to end fascism
and genocide in World War II were legitimate uses of the war powers by our Presidents at the time.

Vietnam was an attempt by a Democratic administration to roll back communism within the paradigm of containment that was followed by both of our parties. The mistake we made was actually believing we could defeat a nationalist movement by a nation fighting on their own soil.

Read the Best and the Brightest by David Halberstam
Read Fire In The Lake by Frances Fitzgerald

and you will understand Vietnam

and read Graham Greene's eerily prophetic The Quiet American and you will see the faulty philosophy behind our involvement.

Ok Thanks for the info and the reading material,I know a lot of info is on the innerweb,but I want to get the personal side of it and to get some of your Knowledge and history takes.Like Robin Shared the info material with the book reads.

[one1]

"I would say fighting to end slavery here in the States" wasn't their some economic reasons also that might have wanted the Southern states to Secede the union,I know slavery was big reason.but were there other reasons that had been stewing.

[icenine]

the Republican policy of being against the extension of slavery into new states created from territory won from Mexico WAS the reason the South seceded....

when Lincoln was elected they left the union for that reason...he was against the extension

as the war dragged on and the price in human bloodshed rose the aims of the North changed as far as the issue of slavery itself as an institution.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

the Republican policy of being against the extension of slavery into new states created from territory won from Mexico WAS the reason the South seceded....

when Lincoln was elected they left the union for that reason...he was against the extension

as the war dragged on and the price in human bloodshed rose the aims of the North changed as far as the issue of slavery itself as an institution.

That's exactly right. Every other excuse some will try to offer can be traced back to this central issue. The South being much more dependent on agriculture, feared such a radical change in farm labor structure.

Dave