Fireworks This Fall In Az!

westgate · #1 01-25-2010, 06:51 PM

mcain vs j.d. hayworth. c. matthews just announced it.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bas...ayworth_in.php

the right vs the far-right, as it's been described.
this battle will be entertaining to the max, to say the least.

Boreas · #2 01-25-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by westgate

macaine vs j.d. hayworth. c. matthews just announced it.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bas...ayworth_in.php

the right vs the far-right, as it's been described.
this battle will be entertaining to the max, to say the least.

We're going to see this a lot in Republican races this fall, challenges to incumbents from the far right wing Tea Party crowd. As you say, it'll be very interesting to say the least.

My take on it is if it's moderately successful it'll move the Republicans out to the very edge of sanity. If it's wildly successful it'll destroy the party. We'll see a lot more Spectors.

John

finnbow · #3 01-25-2010, 07:30 PM

Even though McCain was their party's candidate and Palin's patron, McCain remains an apostate to the knuckle-draggers. You can be sure Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and their ilk will get on board with Hayworth. I guess this is the downside of the establishment Republicans sucking up to the wingnuts. The inmates now want to run the asylum.

In the face of this self-destructive movement on the part of their opponents, wouldn't it be novel if the Dems decided to get their shit together?

Boreas · #4 01-25-2010, 07:38 PM

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In the face of this self-destructive movement on the part of their opponents, wouldn't it be novel if the Dems decided to get their shit together?

Yeah, maybe if they... if they...

And then they could... they could... um.....

..... Naaaah!

John

westgate · #5 01-25-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

My take on it is if it's moderately successful it'll move the Republicans out to the very edge of sanity. If it's wildly successful it'll destroy the party. we'll see a lot more Spectors.

John

hayworth'll get'em there.

finnbow · #6 01-25-2010, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Yeah, maybe if they... if they...

And then they could... they could... um.....

..... Naaaah!

John

What's the matter, John. Cat got your tongue? Here let me help you.

"... but then they wouldn't be Democrats."

Boreas · #7 01-25-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

What's the matter, John. Cat got your tongue? Here let me help you.

"... but then they wouldn't be Democrats."

Man, those guys don't have a feck between 'em.

John

Sandy G · #8 01-25-2010, 09:04 PM

What I wanna know is, how in the Hell did the Dems manage to lose Teddy Kennedy's seat ? Was Coakley THAT incompetent, or were people really wanting a change ? Was she selected thru a primary process, or was she just annointed by the Grand High Poo-Bahs (AKA: Party hacks) ?

Boreas · #9 01-25-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G

What I wanna know is, how in the Hell did the Dems manage to lose Teddy Kennedy's seat ? Was Coakley THAT incompetent, or were people really wanting a change ? Was she selected thru a primary process, or was she just annointed by the Grand High Poo-Bahs (AKA: Party hacks) ?

Coakley was that incompetent. Who the hell goes on vacation a couple of weeks from an election. Also the Democrats couldn't conceive of losing Teddy's seat to any Republican, much less one as unknown as Brown.

Teddy's seat was John's seat. Teddy ran for the seat and won when JFK was elected president. Think about it! A Kennedy held that seat from 1953 until now. They really screwed the pooch on this one.

Of course, this really was a referendum on Obama and the Congressional Democrats. The health care mess had pissed off their opponents and discouraged their base. Republicans turned out and Democrats didn't.

In the 2008 election 40% of young voters under 25 turned out and voted for Obama in overwhelming numbers. In the Mass. Special Election only 15% showed up at the polls.

John

finnbow · #10 01-25-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G

What I wanna know is, how in the Hell did the Dems manage to lose Teddy Kennedy's seat ? Was Coakley THAT incompetent, or were people really wanting a change ? Was she selected thru a primary process, or was she just annointed by the Grand High Poo-Bahs (AKA: Party hacks) ?

I think the coup de grace was when she called Curt Schilling a Yankees fan.

A woman of the people, indeed.