Should/Can smoking be outlawed in outdoor places

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Ya just described Detroit and Flint. I know you been to Detroit so you can definitely cross dat one off you list

No, he just described Coalinga.


(And I've been to Detroit too. In fact, I was born in Detroit.)

[CarlV]

Yes, and I have eaten at Harris Ranch, but not since my mom lived in Hanford back in the 80's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_Ranch

Public reception

The ranch is known to travelers for the "ripe, tangy odor of cow manure", described alternately as a "horrible stench"[11] and "a good, honest, American smell".[12] This smell inspired food writer Michael Pollan to conduct the research on factory farming that led to his sustainability book, The Omnivore's Dilemma.[11] The owner of Harris Ranch, in turn, threatened to withhold a $500,000 donation to California Polytechnic University if it sponsored a speech there by Pollan.[13] In reference to the large number of cattle processed at its facilities, some critics[14] have nicknamed the ranch "Cowschwitz",[11] comparing the slaughtering of cows to the slaughtering of Jews during the Holocaust at the Auschwitz concentration camp.[4][15][16] Animal behavior expert Temple Grandin described the nickname as a matter of public misperception, saying that the company "does a great job" of keeping its animals.[17]

ROTF!

Carl

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by CarlV

Yes, and I have eaten at Harris Ranch, but not since my mom lived in Hanford back in the 80's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_Ranch


ROTF!

Carl

Temple Grandin has worked for Harris Ranch as a consultant. That can either say good things about Harris Ranch or bad things about Temple Grandin or a little of both.