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02-21-2016, 10:22 AM
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Then, how to explain Trump and Cruze?
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02-21-2016, 10:26 AM
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Yes, Hillary won in Nevada. She won by 5%. In December she had an "insurmountable" 25% lead in the polls. So, how is this a Hillary surge, exactly?
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02-21-2016, 10:29 AM
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Bernie's going to win those Southern states John?
He is going to win New York, Virginia and California?
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02-21-2016, 11:19 AM
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Bernie's going to win those Southern states John?
He is going to win New York, Virginia and California?
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We don't know, do we? What we do know is that Hillary's "inevitability" is looking less inevitable by the day.
Bernie probably won't win Virginia and New York (but I wouldn't bet on that) and I actually think he could win California. That would be Yoooge!
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02-21-2016, 11:49 AM
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We don't know, do we? What we do know is that Hillary's "inevitability" is looking less inevitable by the day.
Bernie probably won't win Virginia and New York (but I wouldn't bet on that) and I actually think he could win California. That would be Yoooge!
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I disagree.
I believe that NV was Bernie's opportunity to prove actual significance, nationally. A win there would have -- no doubt -- solidified much about his campaign.
But in a State lacking the advantages afforded him in IA and NH yet not the South where he'll get killed? He lost a relatively close one.
That's very..."not good"...for his long-term odds.
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02-21-2016, 11:52 AM
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There are reports of Berniacs dissing Dolores Huerta of United Farmworkers fame when she stepped up to translate at one of the caucuses in Las Vegas.
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02-21-2016, 12:06 PM
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There are reports of Berniacs dissing Dolores Huerta of United Farmworkers fame when she stepped up to translate at one of the caucuses in Las Vegas.
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From Snopes: "False."
Clinton plant?
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02-21-2016, 12:18 PM
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I disagree.
I believe that NV was Bernie's opportunity to prove actual significance, nationally. A win there would have -- no doubt -- solidified much about his campaign.
But in a State lacking the advantages afforded him in IA and NH yet not the South where he'll get killed? He lost a relatively close one.
That's very..."not good"...for his long-term odds.
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I do agree that Hillary is in the driver's seat but you have to admit that her shrinking lead in NV (and IA and other places) means something. thad that the something is far from good for the Clintons.
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02-21-2016, 11:52 AM
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We don't know, do we? What we do know is that Hillary's "inevitability" is looking less inevitable by the day.
Bernie probably won't win Virginia and New York (but I wouldn't bet on that) and I actually think he could win California. That would be Yoooge!
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Keep digging through all that gift wrapping under the tree John...that horse has to be there somewhere.....
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02-21-2016, 10:35 AM
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Look Bernie is a great person and morally upright. But going around saying he is going to "break up Wall Street" is the same as Trump going around saying he is going to make "America great again."
There are no specifics and more importantly in Bernie's case there will be no Congressional majority to get it done. What scares the hell out of me is that Trump will have a majority.
Hillary will carry on the Obama tradition.
As far as immigration goes I would imagine that Hillary may not be able to get a reform bill passed.
But everyone knows she is not going to cancel Obama's executive actions on immigration. That is probably enough for her to win. And I will glady vote for her.
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