Ukraine Heats Up

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Obamas is over his head and the neocons in the state department just got us involved were we don't need to be.

Obama need to stand down and shut his mouth for once.

There are no NeoCons in today's state department, thankfully.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Obamas is over his head and the neocons in the state department just got us involved were we don't need to be.

Obama need to stand down and shut his mouth for once.

He can't. He's the guy everyone, around the globe, demands to get answers from. That's his job, like it or not.

If he does step out of the way, it's the imbeciles you mentioned in the top sentence who will step up and cause WW3. (And, do it deliberately, I suspect.)

This is what we have.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

There are no NeoCons in today's state department, thankfully.

True. How did I miss that? I only picked up "neocons".

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Svoboda has been sort-of moving more towards the center, but there is clearly a frank neo-Nazi past and much anti-semetic sentiment there. You make some good points, and it's true that I read more into your initial post than was there.

Originally Posted by Boreas

It's politics. Parties always make a pretense of moving to the center prior to an election to broaden their appeal. I have absolutely no faith in their sincerity.

John

I've been reading up on Svoboda.

Also deeply anti-Russian, BTW. a little more than 20% of Crimea is Russian.

Why can't everybody get the picture? Is Fox beating the drums of war? It would be just like them to run to the aid of rightwing Fascists....

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

Back on topic

Obamas is over his head and the neocons in the state department just got us involved were we don't need to be.

Obama need to stand down and shut his mouth for once.

Neocons in the State Department? Name one.

As to your other statement, President Obama is the Commander in Chief and John McCain and his pearl clutchin' girlfriend Lindsey Graham are not, so put down the crank pipe and get a grip.

[donquixote99]

Whatever Obama might do, from going to war for the new Ukranian government to telling Putin we approve of whatever he does, Fox would find it to be totally foolish and wrong.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I've been reading up on Svoboda.

Also deeply anti-Russian, BTW. a little more than 20% of Crimea is Russian.

Why can't everybody get the picture? Is Fox beating the drums of war? It would be just like them to run to the aid of rightwing Fascists....

Dave

Ayup, with that geriatric McCain and Lindsey Graham leading the charge over at Faux. ODS has finally drove them both crazy.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

BTW. a little more than 20% of Crimea is Russian.

Hey, Dave!

According to the 2001 census, almost 60% of Crimeans were ethnic Russians. Ukrainians comprise about 24%. Interestingly, 77% of Crimeans claim Russian as their native language.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea#Demographics

In Ukraine as a whole, Russians comprise only 17.3% of the total population. Almost everyone else is ethnically Ukrainian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Demographics

John

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Neocons in the State Department? Name one.

As to your other statement, President Obama is the Commander in Chief and John McCain and his pearl clutchin' girlfriend Lindsey Graham are not, so put down the crank pipe and get a grip.

WOW MUST SEE : 'F**k the EU': Snr US State Dept. official caught on tape over Ukraine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=NTos0duooaU

'This is what you cook for Ukraine?' State Dept Psaki grilled over leaked tape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=jW1WDbDX7wE

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

WOW MUST SEE : 'F**k the EU': Snr US State Dept. official caught on tape over Ukraine

Victoria Nuland is not a NeoCon.