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Old 07-16-2009, 07:57 PM
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News flash: The latest from the auto dealer front....

Well, as most of you know, I work for a car dealership....not in sales, but running websites and adminning and such.

I was talking with my used car manager today, about the sudden drop in domestics in our inventory, figuring that they had been selling like hotcakes versus our Hondas and Toyotas for some reason, maybe a certain price point was attracting the buyers as most of our domestics are under $12K.

'Taint so, folks. Here's what's going on......

The government helped the banks. The government helped GM and Chrysler. And now, banks WON'T BUY LOANS on any Chrysler product (including Jeep), or any of the GM nameplates that are tanking. The only way you're getting a used Dodge Nitro, for example, is if you're paying cash, or can put down a minimum of 25% of the vehicle's book value.....in which the banks MIGHT consider you, but ONLY if you're up in the 800's on credit score.

The banks are thinking that once and if all the aforementioned nameplates die, that the values of said vehicles will tank bigtime, and then we'll have another crisis on our hands, just like what's going on in housing.

Funny, how this is all coming about right with the CARS program, isn't it? We here at the dealer level are wondering how in the hell (in some situations) this $4500 credit is going to sell any new iron, when in the over $30K bracket, for example, resale value loses more than that over one year's time, thus making a one year old car look far better?

Take away their financing. It's a one-two coverass.....it ensures CARS gets some action, and acts as a buffer against default of people that are planning on making payments on the current Edsels, Studebakers, and DeSotos of the 21st century.

Values accordingly are falling hard.....except for Hummer. Hummer resale values, especially the H2, are starting to skyrocket......because they're all going to Russia, China, and the Arab world. The H2 is a US only vehicle, and in high demand over there. The ones with the largest jump are the high miles Hummers, as mileage doesn't seem to matter as much as it did before.....they just want 'em.

Quite interesting, me thinks......
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Old 07-17-2009, 04:48 AM
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Quite interesting, me thinks......
Similar story on the housing side, the banks took the bailout money, saved their banks and refuse to renegotiation with struggling homeowners.
5 million America home owners were supposed to be helped, 300,000 have received LIMITED help. Why? Big business is not socially responsible, never has been and never will be.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:57 AM
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Den of thieves methinks, we got a letter from one marked urgent. They want to renegotiate our mortgage under the new government plan, but we don't have a mortgage. Called them up and asked whey we keep getting these mailings. We were told we would not qualify in any case - so why send us the damn letter in the first place?
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:32 AM
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An interesting article that I got this morning in email from Wards Dealer Business, to which I have an e-subscription:

http://www.autoloandaily.com/loan-ne...ils&c=20090716
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:36 AM
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Why in the world would the gov want to help people with bad credit purchase a car in the first place ? I am sorry but that's just plain silly to me. Take three steps back bailing out these companies only to help more people default on more loans. As the young kids today are so fond of saying around here FAIL !
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:03 PM
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I have no intention of using this program, so I know very little about it. But after reading everything Kamakiri has posted concerning it, it appears to be nothing more than a crock of shit.

Chas
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:12 PM
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Ah but it is a crock of congressional shite.
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:37 PM
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Looks to me like the program is basically trying to lure the rubes into taking on more debt that they really can't afford. Never could understand why anyone would buy a new vehicle on a 72 month note. They would be upside down for probably five years, even if everything went well.

If you can't afford it, you don't need it. But what do I know, I'm just a stupid, tightfisted hillbilly.

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