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Old 09-07-2015, 10:21 AM
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They would have never needed to go anywhere if Obama didn't cut and run out of Iraq and Afghanistan and not hold his red line with Syria.

The mans failed policies is what we have today. Obama's Vacuum.
Go back to the last severely flawed administration to squarely place ALL the blame. Believe and say what you want but Saddam held in check the area. We would of been better served if old practices of replacing generals had happened.


As an example of the way I look at things, seen a bumper sticker yesterday.

It went something like this...

Clinton lied four died!

To this,

I say Bush lied and many thousands died!


All this President is attempting is to let the locals figure it out. The results are what they are. A serious look needs to bring that part of the world into the fold of modern society. Not the old still practiced rob the riches and leave the locals wanting a holdover from colonial days.




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Old 09-07-2015, 01:28 PM
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Go back to the last severely flawed administration to squarely place ALL the blame. Believe and say what you want but Saddam held in check the area. We would of been better served if old practices of replacing generals had happened.


As an example of the way I look at things, seen a bumper sticker yesterday.

It went something like this...

Clinton lied four died!

To this,

I say Bush lied and many thousands died!


All this President is attempting is to let the locals figure it out. The results are what they are. A serious look needs to bring that part of the world into the fold of modern society. Not the old still practiced rob the riches and leave the locals wanting a holdover from colonial days.




Barney
If you consider the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have died and the millions displaced, "many thousands" is an obscenely trivial term.
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Old 09-07-2015, 02:41 PM
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If you consider the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have died and the millions displaced, "many thousands" is an obscenely trivial term.


I agree totally, but when considering those who still think we were justified. I firmly believe they never think or consider the many many more thousands you now mentioned.

Also if I had mentioned the true figure, in the millions. The arguments to the contrary would of clouded the discussion.



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