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04-23-2016, 08:14 PM
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04-23-2016, 08:28 PM
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As a friend of mine once said,
"We'll buy a trillion dollars worth of shit to protect ourselves from people who nearly took us down with box cutters and a handful of airline tickets......and still end up fighting them twenty years from now."
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04-23-2016, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
I just invented NAILER jokes!
You know who Nailer told me was in the hospital? Sick people!
You know what Nailer got when he crossed a stream and a brook? Wet feet!
You know what really burns Nailer's ass? A brush fire about this high....
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Apparently you're the one suffering from a burnt ass.
FWIW, your answers are wrong.
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04-23-2016, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
I sit back and listen to conservatives bitch and whine about "protesters", "union thugs" and so on, crying, "Just do as the cops tell you!", "Shut up and do your job!", "If you don't want to go to jail, obey the law!", etc., etc., etc. They just seem to despise anyone who stands up to moneyed power, don't they?
Then I consider their dogged insistence that "America is not a Democracy!", that "freedom of speech" only applies to preachers, "Liberal" bashing propagandists and homophobic bigots...............
Then I attach all of this to their obvious and nearly perverse love affair with armed/uniformed governmental employees such as law enforcement and the military and I can't help but wonder;
Who is it that supports oppressive government?
Really, think about that. They claim they oppose governmental power, but the military budget is never big enough for them, their answer to crime always seems to involve little more than more cops with less restrictions and more prisons and less laws restricting the ability of citizens to kill each other............ Well, just how in the hell do they think "governmental power" manifests itself?
It manifests itself in uniformed government employees cracking the skulls of anyone who ".....gets out of line.". It manifests itself in "protesters" being gagged and beaten. It manifests itself in government making it difficult to impossible to fight corporate abuses.
So, tell me;
Who is it that supports oppressive government?
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So, have you really missed what the supporters of both Trump and Sanders are all about? ....and the last 7 years weren't an exercise in the expansion of the power of the federal gov't?
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04-23-2016, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Authoritarians--now concentrated in the Republican party.
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
No shit!
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Please explain to me how your definition of "authoritarian" doesn't apply to Mrs H Clinton? Or even Obama?
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04-23-2016, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
So, have you really missed what the supporters of both Trump and Sanders are all about? ....and the last 7 years weren't an exercise in the expansion of the power of the federal gov't?
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In my humble opinion, the last seven years have been about rebuilding the economy that was left in ruins by Mr. Obama's predecessor. And the passing of Obamacare that gave Republicans a seven year diarrhea.
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04-23-2016, 10:11 PM
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Loyal Opposition
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Originally Posted by whell
Please explain to me how your definition of "authoritarian" doesn't apply to Mrs H Clinton? Or even Obama?
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That one is easy. Trump's rhetoric targets those who are easy to isolate, and who are essentially powerless to resist the assertion of power. It builds on the insecurity of people who once believed that they were God's chosen people, and can't accept that people who are different are nevertheless persons of value and dignity. That rhetoric would use the authority of the government to allegedly preserve a way of life that is no longer available nor desirable.
Hillary and Obama do not use that rhetoric. Whether they can deliver or not, the rhetoric of Obama and Hillary speaks to the empowerment of those who do not and have not had power.
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04-23-2016, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Please explain to me how your definition of "authoritarian" doesn't apply to Mrs H Clinton? Or even Obama?
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Your request is refused, on the grounds that you always refuse my requests of a similar nature.
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04-23-2016, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nailer
Apparently you're the one suffering from a burnt ass.
FWIW, your answers are wrong.
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My ass is fine.
It's amazing how beside the point the 'rightness' or 'wrongness' of the answers is.
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04-23-2016, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
That one is easy. Trump's rhetoric targets those who are easy to isolate, and who are essentially powerless to resist the assertion of power. It builds on the insecurity of people who once believed that they were God's chosen people, and can't accept that people who are different are nevertheless persons of value and dignity. That rhetoric would use the authority of the government to allegedly preserve a way of life that is no longer available nor desirable.
Hillary and Obama do not use that rhetoric. Whether they can deliver or not, the rhetoric of Obama and Hillary speaks to the empowerment of those who do not and have not had power.
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+1. Excellent post.
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